Hey Mormans.

[bermich]

Is it true that Joseph Smith read the golden plates out of a hat?

Do any mormans still actually believe that story?

The whole: Jesus was from America and indians were from Jerusilam and all that??

[Mr. Sparkle]

lol, im not morman so i cant answer the questions. why do you ask?

-MS

[bermich]

I watched South park last week and it was making fun of the whole morman thing how they believed a guy named Joseph Smith when he said he found golden plates in the forest and two stones to translate the plates. The plates were a new testimant from Jesus the way it was meant to be.
No one ever saw the plates but they believed him.
He also read the translations out of a hat.
Then when he had to translate the same story twice, he couldnt. He said he had to translate from the other plate. So now the story would be different but still the same.
Go figure. Charsimatic people can convince an entire population into anything.
Im sure the south park version was a little off but still funny as all hell.

[peam]

there are a lot of mormons around here... who let them out of utah? j/k! I don't agree with that religion at all and I Don't see why any female would.... you're supposed to give birth to males just to send your husband higher up the chain towards God? yeah... I don't think so!

[Mr. Sparkle]

My friend told me about that. he said that episode was funny as hell.
From what i know they do beleive in a guy going into the woods and comming back with a "talk with God" and thats how it started. as far as the golden paltes, and the stories im not sure....

-MS

[Animal Cracker]

South Park..If you saw it there, it is all true. The two writers of that cartoon portray everything with unquestionable inegrity and seriousness.

[monster.]

ROTFLLLLLLLLLL...I must see that episode

[calidude]

I'm not Mormon. But i can tell you that Joseph Smith didn't read them out of a hat. I am a christian. My wife was Mormon b4 we were married. And my best friend is Mormon, his dad was a bishop in the church. He loves South Park, but I think he took that one close to the heart. He told me that they did do there research but a lot of it was twisted.

[Taejoon]

Religion blows, it's a bit ironic however that I went on a date with an ex-mormon girl on Saturday night though. I myself being an ex-christian, she and I had a lot to talk about in the way of angst towards organized religion.

[J-sun]

dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumbbbbb

[Taejoon]

you're dumb.... dumb diddy dumb

[J-sun]

why you feel need to flame me? I was just singing a thing from the southpark episode. I guess you didnt see it.

[Taejoon]

I'm just in a bad mood bro, don't mean to flame, just felt like getting a response out of someone.

[calidude]

being christian is not an organized religion.

[Taejoon]

I know that sounds pretty childish, I should probably go to bed, but I can't sleep.

[Taejoon]

Calidude, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that...

[J-sun]

Well, if you didnt see it you should try and catch it. It was rather funny.

[Taejoon]

I spent 18 years in the church and was on my way to seminary to study to become a pastor before I saw Christianity for what it was...

[Tock]

I spent 18 years in the church and was on my way to seminary to study to become a pastor before I saw Christianity for what it was...

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Yep, same thing here. I regard my church years as part of my wasted youth.
And talk about wasted days -- I used to play the **** accordian in front of department stores begging for $$ for the **** church . . . Geez, I think back on all those days I coulda been out doing ANYTHING else . . . whatta waste . . .

[Red Ketchup]

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I used to play the **** accordian in front of department stores begging for $$ for the **** church . . . Geez, I think back n all those days I coulda been out doing ANYTHING else . . . whatta waste . . .

Man, I hurt for ya bro! Thats pretty... well... sad.

I'm an agnostic leaning a lot towards atheism myself. In my mind, religion is a crutch for those who feel they need to believe in more than just themselves. Nothing wrong there I guess, but it is hard for me to understand the motivation behind believers and people who do stuff like you said up there for their religion.

I guess we all live and learn...

Red

[calidude]

Thats fine. Being Christian just means you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and living Savior.

[Taejoon]

I love S-Park, but I don't have cable, poor college student.

[calidude]

What church was that???

[J-sun]

I would rather talk about southpark. LOL
zzzzzzzzzz

[Taejoon]

That's part of it, but that's not all of it.

[Taejoon]

It also matter very much what you do with your life after this "conversion" takes place.

[calidude]

To who??

[Taejoon]

Church: Non-demoninational, good old fashioned Bible thumpers, allthough not so good in my opinion.

[calidude]

What kinda church were you studying?

[Taejoon]

To God my friend, how do tell those who are saved from those who are not saved? Through their actions...

[Taejoon]

Wasn't studying church bro, just the Bible and the theology that goes with it.

[calidude]

NO. From what Jesus did roughly 2003 years ago. Everyone is saved that wants to be.

[Taejoon]

I dare say that those who do not experience a change in lifestyle have not experienced a change of heart...

[calidude]

Yeah but every person teaches the Bible differently. So whoever READS the Bible needs to get from it what THEY believe Not what someone tells them to believe.

[Taejoon]

Faith is gift from God, not something you can do or not do. "For it is by grace you have been saved through faith" We didn't do anything...

[calidude]

you have been saved through faith

not by grace

[Taejoon]

That's the problem with Christianity... In the long run, everyone turns out to be their own god...

[Taejoon]

because no can agree on what the Bible says...

[calidude]

because no can agree on what the Bible says...

you are right about that one. It is what you believe.

[calidude]

No thats what the LDS or Mormon church believes.