Next PH cycle

[swoll4589]

Start m1t pct tomorrow. Planning on doing another PH cycle in 8-12 weeks wondering what you guys think.

I have some methyl 4ad- contains 50mg 4ad, 10mg methyl 4ad
I have one bottle of 90 caps. I was thinking about taking 1ad with it and i was wondering what an effective dosage would be. I also thought about doing 4derm,1ad, and a small dose of M-Dien. Will do PCT with whatever cycle i decide on. Id like to do another bulking cycle. I do have plenty of M1T but id like to run something different. Im not sure how heptoxic m-4ad is but im guessing it prolly wouldnt be a good idea to run them together. Any info on methyl 4ad would be helpful. Thanks guys.

[Bryan2]

methyl 4ad is a waste you need really really high doses to notice anything aand by that time it gets unhealthy for the liver.

Im talking 180mg+ to see good effects from it.

Mdien if bulking needs to be around 20mg ed

but if cutting 8-10mg will preserve muscle mass.

[swoll4589]

um.... could you clarify what you meant by 180 mg. Are you sayings 150mgs 4AD/30 mg of m-4ad or are you saying 900mg 4ad/180 mg 4ad. How toxic would this be compared to 20mg m1t ( which is the same as 50mg drol right)? I do have one bottle tho and i dont wanna waste it. I also guess i could combine the m-4ad with 4derm that way i wouldnt have to take as big a dosage.

[wolfyEVH]

why not ditch the prohormones and go with some real gear??? It only makes sense, considering real gear is cheaper and more effective. I mean, they're just as illegal anyways.

[swoll4589]

well off subject but the prohormones are already paid and i have them and dont have to get them from someone they are also a little safer. Also i wanna reach more of my potential before i hit the real stuff.

bump for bryan tho or possibly NSA!

[prolangtum]

um.... could you clarify what you meant by 180 mg. Are you sayings 150mgs 4AD/30 mg of m-4ad or are you saying 900mg 4ad/180 mg 4ad. How toxic would this be compared to 20mg m1t ( which is the same as 50mg drol right)? I do have one bottle tho and i dont wanna waste it. I also guess i could combine the m-4ad with 4derm that way i wouldnt have to take as big a dosage.

Id combine both the m 4 ad and the 4 ad. At least 800mgs of 4ad, and 50mgs of m 4ad. Toxicity is overrated. Im not sure where people get comparing M 1T to any steroid as far as liver toxicity, its all speculation.

[Bryan2]

every person ive talked to says m4ad isnt cost efficent it takes around 150mg+of just the m4ad to notice anything at all in terms of test.

I would suggest stacking with 4derm to notice any effects from test.

[swoll4589]

Ok, so would i get any noticable strength boost from throwing like 5mg of M-Dien in there. I have some of the original Gaspari stuff that came in 1mg tabs and i dont want to waste it and i want to save my 3mg and 4mg tabs for later.

[prolangtum]

You could throw it in, but it probaly wont have a noticeable affect. Id save it to add to the 3 and 4mg tabs to bring your daily total up a bit when you run the m dien.

[swoll4589]

thanks prolangtum. Ill prolly run like 400mg 1ad/50mg m4ad/500mg 4ad then standard pct.

and bump for any other opinions.

[prolangtum]

be sure to update results.

[zedly]

some posts i have read got nice results fom vpx m(4)ad. it is dosed at appropriate mg's to see gains. based on my research one of the reasons m4ad got such a bad rep was that some of the products containing m4ad were made with mg too low for results.