All right before anyone get's on my s**t for asking a repetitive question I need some clarity on this subject. Any help would be appreciated so thanks a head of time.

I am currently 5'7" 195lbs. Solid frame but could use some fat loss, probably 25 lbs. I have Clen, cynomel and Test E.

Some of what I read says to lose the weight before starting the test and some says use the test throughout. Needless to say this is all a little confusing with so much advice. Ultimately I think you do what is best suited to you.

That being said as a new user to the clen/cynomel stack how does this sound?


running the t3 like Cycleon said 5% 40% 55%

24444444433222111.5.5.5 - 20 days 20 off

Running the clen as follows:

12344555555543 - 14 days on 14 off

Then to test or not to test and how to run that. Thanks for everyones help. I wish I knew more but I am learning everyday! You guys are great!