gyno??

[cobra kid]

OK, from what I understand, gyno from Deca is caused by progesterone(spelling) but it is not preventable and cannot be controled with novla, arimidex, etc. Basically, what I want to know is when using Deca what are you supposed to do, just hope for the best. Also, does any other gear cause the same type of gyno.

BTW, I am just curious. I'm not using deca or anything for that matter and probably won't be for a good while.(age)

Thanx

[nautica]

vitex

[cobra kid]

vitex? I tried searching and couldn't find much. Is it used post cycle or during? Anbody have any experience with it? Sorry, I've never even heard of it.

[dane26]

usually winny will help control deca related gyno

[Firmbottoms]

If your doin' a deca only cycle, you don't need armidex or nolva IMO as they are used to offset estrogen gyno whereas deca causes gyno through progesterone conversion, you could use proviron as its is an androgen, though mainly used as an anti-aromatise, alot of guys use proviron when on low/no androgen cycles, its does offer some hardening properties
FB

[NightOp]

i suggest you check out the "Progesterone Unveiled..." thread that Mike started... this subject is much more complicated than most ppl think... and i still barely understand it....

[big N]

progesterone gyno ,only at very high doses of deca.when u run winny it helps a good bit.

[NightOp]

that is the general idea, however the thread that i talked about seems to conclude differently.. plz read it, its worth a look.