Customs, ordering gear & help please.

[travisbickle]

I am thinking of ordering, well not really ordering but my cousin lives overseas and he can get things without prescriptions. I live in Australia whats the best way to get them sent here, and do customs open the box before they get to my place?
Also i have sus and deca at the moment - 10 amps of each and 2 bottles of Andriol (80 caps) which i got for real cheap, I dont really wanna buy anymore things. How should i best use all of these and when should i take?

[Scooby1]

bump

[Stout1]

Australia has the strictest border control policies of almost anywhere. I believe that there is a 50% chance of it getting snagged. So good luck

[Scooby1]

Personally I would find a local source- you said you got some other stuff, if you had that shipped in, I dunno. Try to find a local. There are a few Aussies here.

[MER]

I didnt know theres a 50% chance, that's nuts. It all depends on the packing too.

[AusP]

I was gonna postpone my registeration on this forum for tomorow (its kinda late now), but I saw your question and decided to answer it. As an AUSTRALIA POST employee, let me tell you that it would be a hopeless idea to order anything online. Conincidently last week, I approached my manager "innocently", and asked him if it is allowed to order prohormones over the internet. And you should see the look I have got. He simply replied it may result in prosecution, if the authorities were able to prove that you placed the order. My advice as all folks say, look for a local source.

Cheers Mate

PS: This ban covers all drugs that require prescription in australia....quoting my manager here.

[seanw]

I was gonna postpone my registeration on this forum for tomorow (its kinda late now), but I saw your question and decided to answer it. As an AUSTRALIA POST employee, let me tell you that it would be a hopeless idea to order anything online. Conincidently last week, I approached my manager "innocently", and asked him if it is allowed to order prohormones over the internet. And you should see the look I have got. He simply replied it may result in prosecution, if the authorities were able to prove that you placed the order. My advice as all folks say, look for a local source.

Cheers Mate

PS: This ban covers all drugs that require prescription in australia....quoting my manager here.

Thats real usefull info for the bro's in Oz from somebody on the "inside". Hey mate do you own one of those little red postie bikes ? Welcome to the board

[AusP]

if i was a posty I won't have been able to get this info straight from my manager...lets say that I am one of the guys who get to answer ppl's phone calls to AP and tell them why their stuff were confiscated or returned to sender

[AusP]

I just wana say I really do respect the extremely mature tune of this forum, I haven't seen any serious flaming yet, and noticed everyone respects everyone....thumbs up folks

[seanw]

if i was a posty I won't have been able to get this info straight from my manager...lets say that I am one of the guys who get to answer ppl's phone calls to AP and tell them why their stuff were confiscated or returned to sender

So you would know where all those porn videos I ordered have gone ?

[AusP]

havnt seen any porn vids case yet...whatever happened to good old internet file sharing!!

[The Baron]

Well that answers that, on the shipping, anyway. You got it from the expert. Don't have it shipped to Oz!

As for running your sust and deca, here is the prob... you only have 10 amps of sust. You say you have 10 amps of deca but I have never seen deca in amps before. Do you mean 2ml vials? And at what shtrength? I will assume 100mg/ml since that is pretty common. You need to run well above 200mg/week of deca to see any real good from it. 300mg/week works pretty good, 400mg/week is accepted as a standard dosing for this drug. You need to run your test significantly higher than your deca to remain fully androgenic and thus overcome the most unpleasant side effects of the deca. So figure 500mg/week of sust for 400mg/week of deca. IOW, 2 amps of sust a week and 2 vials of deca per week. At that rate you have enough gear for a 5 week cycle. At 5 weeks you will just begin to see gains! And here you are, out of gear! I won't discuss the andriol because it is not at the heart of the cycle... it is more of an accessory drug. You should ideally run your deca for 10 to 12 weeks, and run your sust an extra week after you stop the deca. So you do the math... you don't have a cycle there. You almost but not quite have a half cycle.

Sust use at low dosages has a lot of nagging little problems due to the need for frequent (EOD at least) injections to get the stablest levels and because of the packaging which makes anything other than a 250mg shot inconvenient. Fluctuating levels in the blood increase side effects and reduce gains somewhat. Sustenon is probably a great drug for injecting into a patient recovering from a seriously debilitating illness or injury. The 4 different esters will give a nicely controlled release that begins like the day after injection. A doctor can give you an amp and you are good to go for 3-4 weeks during which time each ester releases in turn and helps wasted tissue to recover. But the release is not stable enough to get OPTIMUM results in bodybuilders or strength athletes. A graph was just posted that shows how levels spike with different injection schedules and sadly I don't have the link on hand. But it shows a definite advantage for shooting EOD or ED. Test E or test C will not spike like that. Shooting either one 2x/week works quite well for maintaining steady levels due to the long half-life. Also you are usually dealing with vials rather than amps, so it is much more convenient to draw say .5cc for a light cycle dosage. So sust is quite usable for a heavy-ish cycle, say an amp EOD which is 875mg/week, though it certainly has no advantage over single ester test unless you just like amps. For a light cycle, cyp or enanth are definitely better.

I would not do anything with what you got. If anything, I would trade it all for single ester test and run that for up to 16 weeks but at least 10 weeks at over 200mg/week but not over 500mg/week. A straight single ester test cycle gives you tremendous flexibility in dosing and is effective at very light to moderate doses.

Now back to the Andriol... you have 80 caps and I assume 40mg each. A good dose when simply using it as an androgenic is 6 to 8 per day but you only got 80... if you just want to use them up, use them to jumpstart. Don't bother the first week. Take 5/day week 2, 4/day week 3, and then three per day until you run out on the 6th day of week 4. This is assuming you are either running a long estered test or running sust which mostly behaves as a long estered test due to the high levels of long esters in the mix. The idea behind the dosing I suggested is that you are getting the androgen levels up quicker instead of waiting for the gradual buildup. You are tapering off the andriol as the injectable stuff begins to build up. This is in no way ideal; it simply is one way to use up what you have of it. Another way is to trade it, with your sust and deca, for test E or C which is what I would prefer to do if it were me.

Is it just me, or am I suddenly seeing a lot of guys with 8 or 10 amps of sustenon trying to put together a cycle with it? Guys, it just isn't going to work as well as you would hope. Get single ester test for your first cycle or your light cycles!

[rock75]

or get prop to jab eod

[Hed]

Tell your cousin to get REAL creative with packaging, and itll make it through.........but he better be a very very ingenuitive guy, otherwise dont even bother.