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    Question first cycle

    Hey guys, i did some reading and it seems a good first cycle shut looks like this. I also gif you my stats, you're gonna ask for it anyway. I'm from europe so its in centimeters an kilograms.

    i'm training 5 years now and the last two years my diet and training is ok
    1,86 m
    78 kg
    not measured bodyfat yet, i'm pretty lean
    i eat 3000 calories now with 380 grams carbs/ 250 grams protein/ 70 grams fat. How much shut i up my calories/carbs/prot/fat, i dont wanna grow to 100 kgs, just an increase of 10 kgs lean muscle mass would be fantastic.


    Wk 1-12 Monday morning inject 1ml (250mg) test into quad. Thursday night inject 1ml into other quad.. basically 1 shot every 3.5 days, this way you are keeping blood levels stable.

    Wk 9-14 take 1 winstol pill (25mg) every 12 hours, so one when u wake up and one at night. Its 50mg a day for 6 weeks.

    Wk 1-14 take 10mg/day nolva

    While taking winny you will wanna take 1 milk thistle pill every morning. Milk thistle blocks the harmful toxins from winny entering your liver.

    14 days after last test shot and 1 day after last winny you start PCT, post cycle therapy.
    Day 1: 300mg clomid (thats six 50mg pills) 20mg nolva (2 pills) and 4 grams of tribulus (4 pills)
    Day 2-11: 100mg clomid, 20m nolva, 4 g trib
    Day 12-21 50mg clomid, 20mg nolva, 4 g trib
    then you should be completley recovered and have your natural test levels going again.

    ps: can i leave the winstol pill, they seem to be pretty bad for liver and joints.
    thanks for the support so far!
    Last edited by serious newbee; 03-05-2005 at 01:37 AM.

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