Hard look

[T-Man]

Which steroid or combination of steroids is used to give that "hard look"?

[abstrack]

masteron, prop, anavar, winny, and a low bf% with a decent muscle base

[inevitable]

tren also

[j martini]

Anything androgenic that doesnt aromatize is good eg tren, masteron. halotestin low body fat will be essential of course.

[BlInDsIdE]

also EQ in my experience

[Schwarz]

Also tensing and flxing the muscle you'r working during your w/o helps to develop muscle maturity and hardness.....but I suppose the AAS do this faster!

[QuieTSToRM33]

prop/tren/eq/var/winny/tbol ..... any combo of those pretty much ... as long as ur training and diet are in check

[MatrixGuy]

Var, masteron, EQ and Tren

[The Baron]

prop/tren/winny works great but sometimes this stack will give you joint pain. I find keeping the sets down and weight up, and using good form helps a lot on winny to prevent or minimize joint pain. Some folks add deca for joint support but I won't be doing that again.

Proper diet will make almost any stack give you a hard look. High fluid retention DURING the cycle should not be paid much attention to... it will go away. Don't confuse water with "low quality gains"... don't think of water gains as gains at all.

If you don't want to mess with the winny, prop and fina are good without it. Run both ED, the prop a bit higher than the fina, anywhere from 6 to 12 weeks. Stop any time you like and start pct a few days to a week after the last shot. Watch the fina sides. You want your fina dose to give you SOME sides but not to the point that you can't handle them. 50-75mg/ED works for most users. Adjust as needed, up or down, and increase the prop if you increase the fina. If you add winny to this, try running 50mg/ED for the last 6 weeks, or 40 days which works perfect if you have 4 jugs of 10ml each at 50mg/ml.

[Dark Bird]

Def Tren

[Drummerboy]

im trying test, tren, var, clen