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    Is anti-e necessary at 700mg?

    Thinking of raising my test prop from 70mgED to 100mgED and end cycle a lil early...

    Havent used an anti-e yet, but I have experienced fat gain (even though I eat right) and am experiencing bloat. These are estro related obviously... Will they become more pronounced at 700mg a week?

    Should I take an anti-e?

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    bump. someone discuss

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    well ya, more test would aromitize more. Just add some anti-e

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris2wire
    Thinking of raising my test prop from 70mgED to 100mgED and end cycle a lil early...

    Havent used an anti-e yet, but I have experienced fat gain (even though I eat right) and am experiencing bloat. These are estro related obviously... Will they become more pronounced at 700mg a week?

    Should I take an anti-e?
    Are you running nolva bro? I would at least run 10/20mg ED. If bloat is still a problem run some l-dex at .25mg ED.

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    Absolutely... you should use an anti e on every cycle! Aside from keeping away a set of D cups, nolva will keep your lipid profiles in check. It can only help you and does not interfere with gains.

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    10-20mg nolva ED, bro.

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    i go with 10mg nolva ed and 1.25mg letro eod

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtr98
    i go with 10mg nolva ed and 1.25mg letro eod
    That might be alittle to much. I would just go with .25mg of armidex or 20mg of nolva.

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    go with adex, fa sho, save nolva for pct...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-Male
    go with adex, fa sho, save nolva for pct...
    Now why would you say this? Nolva is best while on cycle. As long as you are using that much test, you absolutely are going to have estrogen conversion. You would rather have him let his LDL/HDL levels go up, gyno risks, etc. all the things estrogen can do to men on cycle. What the heck for when the stuff is so cheap and counters all of this?

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    A little nolva cant hurt.

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    Thanks... Good idea. I always pictured it for gyno only, never considered the other stuff....

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    Absolutly take an anti-e whatever it is I take nolva. You can never be too carefull with your body!!!!!! Gyno sux!!!!! Don't risk it

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUISECONTROL
    Absolutly take an anti-e whatever it is I take nolva. You can never be too carefull with your body!!!!!! Gyno sux!!!!! Don't risk it
    I agree.

    Gyno is far easier to prevent than it is to treat. Why take the chance when Anti-E's are cheap and widely available.

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    Well your one study is for post menopausal women and your other is breast cancer (which is not as common to men as it is women)so I am not sure how that will relate to men. Further, I am not concerned of Vaginal bleeding as mentioned in a negative side in your second post....as for you, like I said, you rant like a 13 year old daughter. Like I tell her..."You were wrong sweetheart....deal with it." Guys like you come and go...or stay around and learn. Rant and rave all you want. This all started with your incorrect post of Nolva is a proven gain alterer ( which noted that you have since edited after my bringing it to your attnetion of being wrong"and later your expression of ignorance doubting Nolva improves your lipid profiles. Clearly you are some young lad who nver does blood work on cycle or you would know better. Cut and paste all you want. Stick to your bad advice, as you are in the vast minority. My attack was not on other options of anti e...my point was your advice on Nolva was incorrect, unlearned and idiotic.

    Now stop wasting our time with cutting and pasting google searches and posting studies that do not relate. Stick in the game and post from experience. Otherwise live in your own little world and Bask8cast, me and the vast majority are wrong
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    would love to see some pics of your punk ass...then that way, the bros could get a good glimpse of "what works best"...cut and paste, bro, i hate to tell ya, everything in that article you posted by bask8case was taken from somewhere else, and if you ever ventured outside this community, you'd find that opinions are highly varied on what's the best anti-e, etc to run during a cycle...i made one little comment that i quickly corrected, and what are you gonna say now, that women aren't humans? ****in moron, of course there arent any studies with men, cuz that's not what the medication was intended for...here's the bottom line, letro and adex are better, they just dont have a positivfe effect on lipid profiles...BIG ****IN DEAL...i still havent seen you post anything proving that lipid profiles fly that much outta whack when on, and especially if you're not Jay Cutler and you only running 500mg/wk of test with a little deca for 12 weeks...your levels arent gonna get that bad...and once and for all, Nolva does hinder igf-1 levels, letro/adex do not...so take that anyway you want...damn, your name is spot on, you are a ****in TOOL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-Male
    would love to see some pics of your punk ass...then that way, the bros could get a good glimpse of "what works best"...cut and paste, bro, i hate to tell ya, everything in that article you posted by bask8case was taken from somewhere else, and if you ever ventured outside this community, you'd find that opinions are highly varied on what's the best anti-e, etc to run during a cycle...i made one little comment that i quickly corrected, and what are you gonna say now, that women aren't humans? ****in moron, of course there arent any studies with men, cuz that's not what the medication was intended for...here's the bottom line, letro and adex are better, they just dont have a positivfe effect on lipid profiles...BIG ****IN DEAL...i still havent seen you post anything proving that lipid profiles fly that much outta whack when on, and especially if you're not Jay Cutler and you only running 500mg/wk of test with a little deca for 12 weeks...your levels arent gonna get that bad...and once and for all, Nolva does hinder igf-1 levels, letro/adex do not...so take that anyway you want...damn, your name is spot on, you are a ****in TOOL...

    My pics are posted son, look for them. 245 lbs, you look like you barely weigh 160...but I shouldn't digress to your childish "I'm bigger than you". You are a young lad who is clueless. Im done responding to your moronic posts. You have edited your post and you stand corrected....move on!
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    dood, couldnt find your pics, maybe you can post a link, make it easy for me...sorry to disappoint you, i was 160 my freshman year in high school...currently 6'1" at your "supposed" weight...after a long layoff from RA and a herniated disc L5-S1, max was about 255 a couple years ago...that's the point old man, you're a ****in knowitall who's done nothing to back up his claims...God i hate you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha-Male
    dood, couldnt find your pics, maybe you can post a link, make it easy for me...sorry to disappoint you, i was 160 my freshman year in high school...currently 6'1" at your "supposed" weight...after a long layoff from RA and a herniated disc L5-S1, max was about 255 a couple years ago...that's the point old man, you're a ****in knowitall who's done nothing to back up his claims...God i hate you...
    "Do my research for me...find your posts for me...I hate you...." You sure your name isn't A Phemale instead of Alpha Male? You really do sound like a girl!!! Now your claim is that you weigh 220, but a month ago you weighed 245 when you signed up on here? Like I said before...another know nothing kid who is playing with his stats out in cyberspace. Now run along sweetheart and I may even take a photo for you tonight when I get home that is not 2 years ago or whenever you claim to be in the pink!

    By the way...it is spelled "dude, not dood". The first time I thought you made a typo but seeing you repeat it... Must be some heck of a college you go to Einstein.
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    [QUOTE=toolman]My pics are posted son, look for them. 245 lbsQUOTE]

    here's where i thought you were claiming to be 245...shoulda know better...i didnt hear where you went to school, retard

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    [QUOTE=Alpha-Male]
    Quote Originally Posted by toolman
    My pics are posted son, look for them. 245 lbsQUOTE]

    here's where i thought you were claiming to be 245...shoulda know better...i didnt hear where you went to school, retard

    Undergrad full boat to Franklin and Marshall then my MBA at Wharton son. Sold my first company by 32 and am now semi-retired at 40. Can't seem to give up work year round. I have studied martial arts seriously the last 8 years and too much size kills your flexibility, hence my satisfaction with my current size. Besides, when you get older, you will start to realize your mortality and be more concerned with lipid profiles, BP, bloat, etc....Anything else I left out that you would like to know?!?

    Now like I said, be an adult and stop your name calling. You are only embarrassing yourself....or at least be more creeative than "fag, retard, etc." The challenge here is waning.

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    That was intersting guys... Both sides well done

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    Talking

    Good posts from both of you. If you guys decide to meet up somewhere send me an email Ill gladly fly out to watch this one!!

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    I did 700mg test prop /wk and never used nolva and I was fine. I ran it along with 600mg EQ/wk and 75mg tren eod. Maybe I'm not prone to gyno like some are. I'd take 10-20mg of nolva eod to help with the bloating issue, but I dont think its absolutely necessary to do it ed unless your on higher dosages and the soul purpose is for estrogen blockage rather than water shed. I dont know why more people dont do nolva eod, for some reason they think you HAVE TO do it ed.

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