How many of you think

**briansauras** · 10-02-2005, 06:54 PM

30mg dbol(1-4) and 500mg test e(1-10) for a first cycle is a bad idea?

***G-1000*** · 10-02-2005, 06:55 PM

that would be a good first cycle. i would just run teh test 12 weeks.

**Juddman** · 10-02-2005, 06:56 PM

good first cycle, as long as youre eating right and enough

**Pinnacle** · 10-02-2005, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by brewski053

30mg dbol(1-4) and 500mg test e(1-10) for a first cycle is a bad idea?

I like it..........

~Pinnacle~

**briansauras** · 10-02-2005, 08:17 PM

so you guys dont have any objections to the dbol in there. Basically i wasnt sure if its better to run JUST test for 10-12wks

**vein-x** · 10-02-2005, 08:31 PM

Dbol is used as a kickstart. Not a problem bro... matter o' fact, that's identical to my first cycle.

**topvega** · 10-02-2005, 08:32 PM

good 1st cycle... u shld get good results...

**STRANGE** · 10-02-2005, 08:39 PM

if you wanted to save money you could drop the test e to 250 a week for 12 weeks and get the same results since it your first cycle

**Pinnacle** · 10-02-2005, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by brewski053

so you guys dont have any objections to the dbol in there. Basically i wasnt sure if its better to run JUST test for 10-12wks

Either way bro...just keep your Test @ 500mgs weekly.

~Pinnacle~

**STRANGE** · 10-02-2005, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Either way bro...just keep your Test @ 500mgs weekly.

~Pinnacle~

Pinnacle you dont think he can get the same gains off of 250 a week since its his first cycle

**Angel of death** · 10-02-2005, 08:52 PM

500 is certainly better

**topvega** · 10-02-2005, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by STRANGE

Pinnacle you dont think he can get the same gains off of 250 a week since its his first cycle

same gains... no...

**Unoid** · 10-02-2005, 09:30 PM

if its your first, take it cautious and take 30-40mg ED of nolva while on your dbol. then drop down to 10-20mg ED for throughout cycle estrogen binding.

**briansauras** · 10-02-2005, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Either way bro...just keep your Test @ 500mgs weekly.

~Pinnacle~

Prolly 1cc every mon/thur right?

I should be good running test for just 10wks then eh?

I was planing on taking 10mg nolva ED at wk 1

**topvega** · 10-02-2005, 09:46 PM

i wld lean towards 12 weeks...

**IBdmfkr** · 10-02-2005, 09:48 PM

How old are you and is this your first cycle? Might have missed something in above posts. What are you stats?

This is a good starter cycle depending on who is taking it.

**briansauras** · 10-02-2005, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

How old are you and is this your first cycle? Might have missed something in above posts. What are you stats?

This is a good starter cycle depending on who is taking it.

haha if u read it says first cycle

**briansauras** · 10-02-2005, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by topvega

i wld lean towards 12 weeks...

just curious why are you leaning toward 12?

**IBdmfkr** · 10-02-2005, 10:36 PM

If "you" read, it'd still be good to know something about you. This is what "stats" means. How can anyone give you advice if we don't know anything about your goals etc..

I usually skim over these posts, there are thousands of them every day just like this.

**topvega** · 10-02-2005, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by brewski053

just curious why are you leaning toward 12?

test e takes a bit to kick in... u might find like me that 10 weeks in u r really just findin your groove....4 or 5 weeks to kick in... 10 weeks is the sweet spot bro...i mean don't be surprised if 10 weeks in u r lookin for some more test to go 15.... but what do i know.... i am just 1 of those guys that was doin a 10 week cycle, then a 12 week, now who knows... 15... 20???
just kiddin... i'll be off by week 19....

**IBdmfkr** · 10-02-2005, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by topvega

test e takes a bit to kick in... u might find like me that 10 weeks in u r really just findin your groove....4 or 5 weeks to kick in... 10 weeks is the sweet spot bro...i mean don't be surprised if 10 weeks in u r lookin for some more test to go 15.... but what do i know.... i am just 1 of those guys that was doin a 10 week cycle, then a 12 week, now who knows... 15... 20???
just kiddin... i'll be off by week 19....

HAHA, I can relate! Is that bad?

**topvega** · 10-02-2005, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

HAHA, I can relate! Is that bad?

that depends on your definition of bad... lol

**wink182** · 10-02-2005, 11:12 PM

good to go, that cycle is par for course. You are gonna love it.

**shrpskn** · 10-02-2005, 11:54 PM

Be sure to keep some nolva on hand with the dbol in there. And proper PCT and you should be good to go bro.

**briansauras** · 10-03-2005, 04:15 PM

should I run 10mg ed throughout or wait for signs of gyno?

**topvega** · 10-03-2005, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by brewski053

should I run 10mg ed throughout or wait for signs of gyno?

that's your call... i didn't... i wanted to see if i was prone to gyno... which i now know i m not...

**topvega** · 10-03-2005, 07:51 PM

i wld take b-6 and milk thistle during though...

**briansauras** · 10-03-2005, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by topvega

i wld take b-6 and milk thistle during though...

whats the b6 good for? Could i take it in pill form lol

**james21** · 10-03-2005, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by brewski053

whats the b6 good for? Could i take it in pill form lol

Yeah, just wondering im not a vitamin expert but what is the b6 for ?

**Ripdx** · 10-03-2005, 10:15 PM

i took 250 test en/wk for my first with no dbol and went from 170 to 200lbs

**briansauras** · 10-04-2005, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Ripdx

i took 250 test en/wk for my first with no dbol and went from 170 to 200lbs

haha damn

**big_C** · 10-04-2005, 03:35 PM

decent cycle, run 12 weeks with test and up your cals and protein

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