help with minimal amount possible

[aNuBiS99]

Whats the lowest dosage you would suggest for a steroid newbie of testosterone enth and tren enth per week, without it doing nothing but shutting down your natural test and giving absolutely no gains.

[freakintraining]

well bud, tren is out of the question for a first timer and any amount of test will shut you down naturally that is why you do pct.....but most guys for a first cycle to 500mg of test e or cyp for 12 weeks

[goose]

Forget tren, just one small dose, your first shot and you will shut down your natural test.

goose4....

[aNuBiS99]

yeh i know it'll shut you down, but what is the lowest dosage of those two can you take without it not doing anything for you?

[Charged_UP]

Personally if i was u as a newcomer i would try the test only first like the guy above mentioned and only use the trem if u got it cheap of sell it to get some more test. Wait to use trem till later on in whatever cylcles u might want to take, its fun stuff though. For now use test to establish a nice load of mass, do at the most 750mgs per week in my opinion. I dont know if ur big or not already but the best results u get with normally the least amount of side-effects is off the first cycle. So if ur after the mass go for the main mass builders such as enath or cyp.

[aNuBiS99]

Id still like to know whats the lowest dosage you could take per week while still getting results.

[freakintraining]

750 for a first time is alot i dont think his body could handle it....anyways what is you age and stats

[freakintraining]

no offense bro but it doesnt even sound liek you are ready to plunge into AAS

[Charged_UP]

500mgs at the least. As for combining it with trem, u are going to experience very high androgenic properties.

[aNuBiS99]

No offence taken bro. Believe me, Ive been lurking around these boards, and Ive been on another board for several years. I have all I need for an upcomming cycle, including PCT, Im just asking out of curiosity. What is the lowest amount of test-e per week a person could take and still see gains.

[Charged_UP]

Well i have read that ur body produces roughly 250mgs per week naturally. So the same article simply said that 250mgs, which is a normal does for majority of comapines out there producing test, would just stop ur natural production with minimal gains from the actual substance. Though u may have higher amounts of test in u before ur body had time to react to this increase. As far as i have seen in the past 10 years 500mgs would be the least i would reccomend.

[aNuBiS99]

Awesome info, thanks