We had a bench meet in Ft Myers Fl. today, It was an APA meet, i saw a up and coming bench beast...Mike couch busted a easy 665 at 281 lbs body weight! i thought he had atleast 685 in him, he is just rough around the edges, needs to work on his form, and technique...the scary thing is, he said he hasnt been training regularly, he plays tournament softball..he said, his training has been real spread out, and doesnt allways have time to lift, and he is still that strong!!! I had trained in the morning, before the meet, and had my boards, and chains still laying out...he saw them and told me he never used that stuff! He is one strong dude!! PLJAY, i was hoping you would have come to check out the meet and gym and hang a little!! maybee next time buddy!!