decreased recovery after longer cycles

[Montgomery]

From experience, are there any guys out there who have recovered fine from a cycle that was 15-20 weeks long? Did you use HCG or proviron, or anything else throughout? Also, please list your age and experience.

Thanks,

Montgomery

[MetalGod]

im 23 and last year I did a 16 week cycle of Test E (800mg/week)+ EQ (400mg/week) with Dbol for the first 4 weeks @40mg ED. I've been juicing seriously for the past couple of years. I haven't noticed any difference in recovery between longer and shorter cycle. i mean, your test levels get suppressed to zero in the first couple of weeks, and then they stay at zero till you come off. So even if your cycle is only 6 weeks, your natural test is still starting from zero when you come off, so duration doesn't seem to matter, although longer cycles may effect mental dependence which is a different matter entirely.

I've only ever used nolva throughout the cycle with Clomid for PCT, and no real problems doing that. some people will shoot some HCG every 6 to 8 weeks when their on to keep their balls alive, but i don;t know if that helps much

good luck!

[Montgomery]

that helps alot, thanks metal god. has anyone done a real long cycle, say nearer 20 weeks with test as the base?

Montgomery

[MetalGod]

what are you planning on running Monty? what doses?

[SPIKE]

that helps alot, thanks metal god. has anyone done a real long cycle, say nearer 20 weeks with test as the base?

Montgomery

I've been cycling time on = time off for about 5 years now. Have never gone over 14 weeks and am going to start a 20 weeker in a little over a month. I'll be able to answer this question better when the time comes.

Do have to say that with proper PCT I have never had a problem recovering from any cycle with Bloodwork to prove. Just as a precaution I"m going to run HCG throughout this cycle, I'll keep you posted.............

[Montgomery]

well I had an issue with breakage of vials, so I have to choose between cruising until I get more and then continuing on, or doing my PCT and waiting a few months to start again. I'd much rather just keep going so that I can get it all done before my exams and summer, but I also don't want to damage my HPT. I was running prop at 75mg ED, eq at 50mg ED with nolva and letro. I have HCG on hand. I have lots of var too and I'll be starting that soon when my next shipment of prop gets here. Now I'm cruising on eq at 525 a week. I was on cycle for about 4 weeks before the break, I've been cruising for almost a week, and my stuff should be here in 10 days. So in total the whole shooting match should be about 17-18 weeks, then PCT. Do you think that's too long altogether?

Montgomery

[MetalGod]

man that sounds F*****ed up! too bad about your cycle gettin messed up! so you are waiting for more prop? and just running the EQ alone till it arrives?

[Booz]

i ran a 24 weeker last year,never again,it was long and hard to recovver from that,will not go any longer than 16 weeks from now on!!
i am 36!

[Pinnacle]

according to this ass fvks doctor.It's great to run 8-10 month cycles repeatedly over years and you won't have any issues with recovery

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=222541

[Booz]

according to this ass fvks doctor.It's great to run 8-10 month cycles repeatedly over years and you won't have any issues with recovery

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=222541

wat an idiot,i cannot see any doc advocating running 10 months on 2 months off!!!

[marcus300]

Ive done many long cycles but as i got older recovery was very hard, also when i totaly came off it was impossible to hold on to gains every week they slipped away,also had trouble mentaly with handling comming off, it was harsh, ive seen it many times young BB's thinking that doing long cycles are the answer to their dreams and its not,
Why stay on a long cycle because you dont gain anymore no matter what you do your body gets use to it and all what happens is you will have to keep increasing the dose to get further gains, bridging/coasting are the only choice as you get older,why start HRT sooner than you should!
recovery and maintenance are vital to building muscle, AAS are only one tool for the job there are many more which people forget about, priming the body before you start a cycle is a great way of ensuring amazing gains, staying on AAS is not the answer in the long run, come off recovery fully and maintain with diet and other compounds of pct to keep hold of the gains and then prime your body and create an anabolic enviroment and the next cycle you will build great muscle tissue

[Montgomery]

man that sounds F*****ed up! too bad about your cycle gettin messed up! so you are waiting for more prop? and just running the EQ alone till it arrives?

that's right

I think I'm gonna do HCG at 1500iu every 4 days for 12 days, then get on my prop again and run for a few more weeks. I'll run HCG at 500iu per week and do wicked clomid and nolva therapy for a couple months afterwards. I think I'll be ok. I'm only 22 and my test levels were awesome before, so I think I'll bounce back.

Montgomery

[Montgomery]

according to this ass fvks doctor.It's great to run 8-10 month cycles repeatedly over years and you won't have any issues with recovery

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=222541

good post pinn; what would you say his "low dose" was exactly?

Montgomery

[Montgomery]

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