questioning the basics

[dogfight]

ok i might sound like a novice hear but ill risk it( no offense to the rookies). i have been wondering latey an here is my question. i have always ran test in every cycle as the base drug, with the doses of test run higher than anything else an running test at least a week or two longer than anything else... ive always thought this to be standard but now iam wondering is this always the case i.e; if i want to feel more of the effects/results from tren should the dose of the tren be higher than the test? and just run the test longer than the tren? and are there any cycles that you dont need test in? i have always read about the classics like deca/dbol, tren/winny, but from what i know i would be scared of a limp noddle during those cycles. all input fact an opinion are valuable here thanx!!

dogfight

[stocky121]

ok i might sound like a novice hear but ill risk it( no offense to the rookies). i have been wondering latey an here is my question. i have always ran test in every cycle as the base drug, with the doses of test run higher than anything else an running test at least a week or two longer than anything else... ive always thought this to be standard but now iam wondering is this always the case i.e; if i want to feel more of the effects/results from tren should the dose of the tren be higher than the test? and just run the test longer than the tren? and are there any cycles that you dont need test in? i have always read about the classics like deca/dbol, tren/winny, but from what i know i would be scared of a limp noddle during those cycles. all input fact an opinion are valuable here thanx!!

dogfight

some people don't suffer from the dreaded deca dick i know someone who can take deca and tren together with no test. But i would never advise this because i do and so dose the majority of people

the only cycle i would ever do with out test is a t-bol only cycle

i would never run drug's like tren or deca in a cycle with out test in it

as for running the test lower i did this in my last cycle

800mg of test c
with
525mg tren a
and 600mg eq

by week six i had to add 50mg of test prop ED to get my libido back up again
so i would run the test higher

[rodge]

i would atleast run a replacement dose(250mg) of test in a cycle.

-rodge

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[stocky121]

Just curious as to why not? The only thing you'd have to worry about is a limp noodle, right? And running HCG while on cycle could cure that and bring the boys across the picket line.

Just a thought. I've mentioned it before and haven't heard of anyone thats tried it.

there is other thing's other then just deca dick like loss of motavation which i also got and also appitite. TEST is what make's male's male why would you not want to have it in your body ?

also i don't see how HCG will stop you getting deca dick

[Booz]

all hcg will do if ran correctly through a cycle is keep your nuts nice and plump!
hcg will not help with libido issues!

[stupidhippo]

in theory it should raise test levels though.. ? but how much with the standars protocol?

[stocky121]

in theory it should raise test levels though.. ? but how much with the standars protocol?

i diden't think it raised test level's at all just raised estrogen and incresed the size of the testicals

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