Third Cycle help

[Josh_455]

For my first cycle I did test E 500mg/W for 12 weeks for my second cycle I did Week 1-14Sus250@750mg/w Deca@400mg/w, Just want to know if I should up my dosage for my third cycle,
Third Cycle
Week 1-16 Testiviron@500mg/W is that enough or should I up it to 750mg/
Week 1-14 EQ@400mg/W Is that a good dosage?
Can anyone help us out? cheers

[majorpecs]

Bro...you need to run Testoviron EOD at least because of the short acting prop ester involved. So 750mg/week sounds about right if you are doing EOD shots. I'd def. bump the EQ up to 600, might not be a hugely noticeable difference, but in the long run, I think you'll be pleased.

[SPIKE]

you need to run Testoviron EOD at least because of the short acting prop ester involved.

We talking about the same thing here Pecs? The testoviron made by Shering? 250mgs of Test e?






Why dont you do this Josh, since it your third cycle and you've ran 750mgs of Test before:

Weeks 1-14--------Testoviron 750mgs
Weeks 1-12--------EQ 600mgs

Most importantly what are your goals Josh?

[sp9]

Were you happy with your first cycle? If you were, that was a huge jump for a second. You went from 500mg a week of drug to 1150mg a week of drug. I would have kept test the same, added the deca and not bumped up the cycle length by 2 weeks.

No offense to Jay but I think you have the right idea by trying to get your doses back down, if you don't... what is your fourth gonna look like? 1 gram of test and 600mg of Deca? You are only 20 years old. I also don't think you should keep bumping the length up by 2 weeks each cycle.

The key is your goals, are you trying to be a bodybuilder for a profession, or just try to take things past your genetic potential for a recreation?

I assume you were a teenager when you ran the first 2 or close to it?

[SPIKE]

Were you happy with your first cycle?

That's definitely a main question to be answered. By upping the dose that much on the second I"m curious to the gains made on his first.

I would have kept test the same, added the deca and not bumped up the cycle length by 2 weeks.

I too would have done that. Depending on gains made by the first I would have kept the Same test dose and introduced the Deca.

No offense to Jay but I think you have the right idea by trying to get your doses back down

The only thing I dont like about trying to get the doses back down are that his body is already accustomed to certain doses. That why with each and every cycle it get harder and harder to gain unless you switch things up. its always better to ramp up slowly but he jumped the gun a bit from his first to second. Lets see what he has to say about his previous gains, can always take it back down to 500mgs of test as you suggested then introduce a new compound (EQ).

[sp9]

The only thing I dont like about trying to get the doses back down are that his body is already accustomed to certain doses. That why with each and every cycle it get harder and harder to gain unless you switch things up. its always better to ramp up slowly but he jumped the gun a bit from his first to second. Lets see what he has to say about his previous gains, can always take it back down to 500mgs of test as you suggested then introduce a new compound (EQ).

Jay - I normaly would agree. I just went and read his first post here: http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=166664

This means:

May of 2005 on time first cycle = 14weeks + 3 week pct = 17 weeks
second cycle time on = 16week + 4weeks pct = 20 weeks

That means he was 19 years old and has been on these drugs (I think we agree to count pct as on time) for 37 weeks in the last the last 10 months (May 2005 through Feb 2006).

So on 37 weeks out of a little over 40 weeks? Knowing that, don't you think he should put the needles down, take some more time off and re-consider his whole approach to steroids? A 20 year old who just started and has spent 10 months with close to 90% on time?

[SPIKE]

Knowing that, don't you think he should put the needles down, take some more time off and re-consider his whole approach to steroids?

Absolutely!!!! Especially at that age people are more eager to get bigger and bigger. Taking the right steps is crucial when you're that young. His best bet is to take time off. And by judging his time on that will be several months then bloodwork to decide whether hes able to get back on.
IMO he should have waited a couple of years before trying anything but too late for that........

Good job on checking his background and previous posts..........