Has anybody gained more than ten pounds, (just volumizaion, actual muscle, or whatever), from any BD products. All of the threads I have read indicate poor results. I read the results from there produts and I had better results just from the old prohormones like M1T. People are taking reasonable doses of, what shoult be hardcore stuff like oxymetholone and test cyp for a week or two and asking when they should get a kick. Common man. Anadrol. When is it going to kick?