May Cyp Cycle......Please pop holes..Winny???

[Jay_notellin]

Ok Guys, I am 53 days away from my next Cycle. May 1 I start my Kentucky Derby run . I want some input on my cycle. Before I do this, let me give you a brief cycle history.

I am about 50 days post Sust 250 cycle. Did aprox 437.5 MG week. Great gains, which i have kept 95% of them. Kept all my strength. Prior to that cycle, I did two other cycles of Sus 250 years ago. Also did some Eq.

My next cycle will be my first single esther test use. I am planning on Cyp with Winny at the end. My Cyp has an expiration date of May 2005, so my first questions is.........Is this Juice still ok? It looks fine, but has it lost some of its potency? Should i take this into account when I shoot.......IE increase dosage.

I will be shooting the Cyp twice a week, unless once a week will suffice. Will have arimidex on hand for any possible gyno problems. My PCT is set.

Here is my planned cycle.
Wk 1 450 MG Cyp
Wk 2 450 MG Cyp
Wk 3 450 MG Cyp
Wk 4 450 MG Cyp
Wk 5 450 MG Cyp
Wk 6 450 MG Cyp
Wk 7 450 MG Cyp
Wk 8 450 MG Cyp
Wk 9 450 MG Cyp 20 MG oral Winny
Wk 10 450 MG Cyp 20 MG oral Winny
Wk 11 450 MG Cyp 20 MG oral Winny
Wk 12 450 MG Cyp 20 MG oral Winny

I am not sure on the MG of my winny. I believe they are 5 MG. I have attached a photo for you guys to verify.

As for the cycle, please give input on the MG use for both Cyp and winny as well as length of cycle. I am not entirely set on running a singly esther test for 12 weeks. I am also a bit hesitant to break that 500 mg a week barrier. Also, I have been kicking around the idea of adding some superdrol wks 1-4 as a kicker. Please let me know if you thing this is a good idea.

My goal is not to blow up 30 lbs, but rather to make some really nice solid gains. My current stats are 6'5 231lbs aprox 13% bf (est). I have been training off and on for a few years now.

[Booz]

i would run the winny so it stops 1 day short of your pct!
50mg ed 10-14+3 days then next day start pct,20mg winny will not do much if anything at all mate.....

[Jay_notellin]

Yeah.....I was thinking that too. But honestly, I was more or less using the winny to dry out the cyp. Make my gains cleaner. Ofcourse, I will end up increasing it LOL.....Dont we all?

Say I run 50 MG ED........How many days would u run it? Not exactly sure from your post?

I lost my mind there regarding running the Winny up to PCT......DUH.....Thanks for catching that!!!

That is 5 mg stuff I am getting, correct?

[MAXIMA5]

You may respond well to low doses, which is fine, but 450 mg of Cyp seems a little low. Just my novice opinion.

[Booz]

Yeah.....I was thinking that too. But honestly, I was more or less using the winny to dry out the cyp. Make my gains cleaner. Ofcourse, I will end up increasing it LOL.....Dont we all?

Say I run 50 MG ED........How many days would u run it? Not exactly sure from your post?

I lost my mind there regarding running the Winny up to PCT......DUH.....Thanks for catching that!!!

That is 5 mg stuff I am getting, correct?

cannot tell mate sorry you would be better posting a pic in the picture forum......

[Jay_notellin]

You may respond well to low doses, which is fine, but 450 mg of Cyp seems a little low. Just my novice opinion.

My body responded to the Sus on relatively low doses. Not sure as to the potency of Cyp compared to Sus. I assumed Cyp would have a bit more Kick.

I would deffinitely go up to 500 mg/week if it would prove beneficial.

[Booz]

You may respond well to low doses, which is fine, but 450 mg of Cyp seems a little low. Just my novice opinion.

yes and everyone is entittled but he must still be gettin good gains from these doses otherwise i would think he would up it....

[MAXIMA5]

True. I was going to run 600 mg Cyp but jumped to 750, mainly because I get it in 250 mg amps, and secondly because I was led to believe that about 30% of the solution is ester as opposed to test.

If I were him, I'd shoot 450 three times a week on M W and F at 150 mg doses, as opposed to once, which will obviously not work, and twice, which may work well also. the three 150mg doses seemed like the best way to me.

[Jay_notellin]

True. I was going to run 600 mg Cyp but jumped to 750, mainly because I get it in 250 mg amps, and secondly because I was led to believe that about 30% of the solution is ester as opposed to test.

If I were him, I'd shoot 450 three times a week on M W and F at 150 mg doses, as opposed to once, which will obviously not work, and twice, which may work well also. the three 150mg doses seemed like the best way to me.

Mine is 10 cc 200 MG/CC Vile, so I will not have the ampule problem.

I might be shoot every third day rather than M,W,F or any other set schedule. This will give me more stable levels. (X,1,2,X,1,2,X......X being a shot). If i do 200 mg every third day, it equates to 466.67 mg/wk. If i decide to do 225 mg every third day, it will be 525 mg/wk.

Then again, does Cyp need to be shot with such frequency? This is what I am researching. Sust is great stuff, but constantly having to shoot is a pain in the a$$.

How long should a Cyp cycle be? Is 12 weeks too long for a single esther test?

Also, any opinions on the strength of Cyp vs Sus 250? Anything on the May 2005 expiration?

[velvetlion]

Mine is 10 cc 200 MG/CC Vile, so I will not have the ampule problem.

I might be shoot every third day rather than M,W,F or any other set schedule. This will give me more stable levels. (X,1,2,X,1,2,X......X being a shot). If i do 200 mg every third day, it equates to 466.67 mg/wk. If i decide to do 225 mg every third day, it will be 525 mg/wk.

Then again, does Cyp need to be shot with such frequency? This is what I am researching. Sust is great stuff, but constantly having to shoot is a pain in the a$$.

How long should a Cyp cycle be? Is 12 weeks too long for a single esther test?

Also, any opinions on the strength of Cyp vs Sus 250? Anything on the May 2005 expiration?

Cyp. can be injected only twice a week if you would like. I know people who only shoot it once a week, but I think that will throw blood levels off a bit. I myself shoot it every 3 days, so it is not actually on a per week schedule. I like doing it this way, but it isn't neccessary.

12 weeks is perfect for a cyp. cycle.

Don't worry about the May expiration, I would be willing to bet that it will be fine.

As for cyp. vs. sust. I prefer cyp. only because I find it easier to keep my blood levels stable and easier to control. If I want to throw a short ester in, I might incorporate some prop. right at the beginning of the cycle.

[velvetlion]

And also, like Booz said, I would up the dose of Winny to 50mg. I don't think that you will see much from 20mg.

[Jay_notellin]

Cyp. can be injected only twice a week if you would like. I know people who only shoot it once a week, but I think that will throw blood levels off a bit. I myself shoot it every 3 days, so it is not actually on a per week schedule. I like doing it this way, but it isn't neccessary.

12 weeks is perfect for a cyp. cycle.

Don't worry about the May expiration, I would be willing to bet that it will be fine.

As for cyp. vs. sust. I prefer cyp. only because I find it easier to keep my blood levels stable and easier to control. If I want to throw a short ester in, I might incorporate some prop. right at the beginning of the cycle.

Thanks.....Great Info.

How long would u run 50 MG of Winny for? I do not want to be on it that long. I would look horrible bald!

[Jay_notellin]

Bumb.......

Any more info on length of running winny or adding superdrol to the beg of cycle?

[stuball]

Talk about asking the right questions, taking advise, Great job, alot of people ask for advise and already have their minds made up...By the way NY rules ! ! !

[Jay_notellin]

Odoyl Rulz!!!!!!!!!