500mg or 1gram sustanon?

[catlovesfood]

My brother wants to cycle, its his second his first was 250mg/week for 7 weeks, and want to use 1 gram(250mg eod) like me, but I am not sure if he should just bump his dose to 500mg. He is 220 lb 10%bf and he gained 20lb of his last cycle. He knows how to eat right, and has over 200lb of whey proetin at home. Anyway, he want to do a gram and try and put on 30 - 40 lbs. What do you guys think? should he stick with 500mg of jump to 1 gram?

[mr. snakes]

Sust250 taken EOD 3x 750mg total a wk is the best way to go with sust.

[mkrulic]

that's a lot for a second cycle. eod, some weeks will be three shots, some will be four. the avg. weekly amount will be:
(3*250 + 4*250)/2 = 875mg/week
I'd go w/ a single ester at 750mg/week for the second run.

[BG]

No need to make that big of a jump, 500 should be fine, if hes really set on doing alot which you should try to talk him out of it, 750 is way more then enough. I did 1gram, not impressed, dropped back to 750 and had the same gain less sides. Tell him stick with 500 and add 350 of deca if he wants some more out of the cycle.

[loki_is_a_god]

like big guns said ....dont let him go over 750mgs per week....no need for a second cycle....remember to use this stuff for 12 weeks....and shoot eod for the little prop that is in sustanon

[Auto54]

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[BG]

Hes going to burn out his receptors and next cycle will have to increase not getting great gains.

[catlovesfood]

With his first "cycle" I'd say he needs to start fresh and do a standard first cycle. 250mg for 7 weeks was crap to begin with.

You might say that, but he did gain 20lbs, and droped 5% bf only of 250mg.

[catlovesfood]

He wants to do a gram, taking in 500 - 600 grams protein daily.

[BG]

You might say that, but he did gain 20lbs, and droped 5% bf only of 250mg.

Sorry, but I find that hard to believe.

[Auto54]

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[catlovesfood]

WTF..He gained 12 Kilograms of his cycle. Whats so hard to believe.

And burning out your receptors? There is no such thing. At least research before you talk s h i t. Dude your dna has a genetically determined number of recepters. They dont "burn out". What happens is that the receptor is saturated with adrogens + anabolics, causing growth. Though this growth can only be sustained for relatively small lengths of time, 10 -15 weeks. After 20 + weeks your receptors up-regulate and increase in number for a short time causing further growth.(within limits.)

Dude, I am a third year medical student, I know what I am talkin about.
I was just asking for opinions on my bro using 1 gram, not your judgement that my brother gained 12 kilos to go up to 220lb.

[catlovesfood]

my last cycle at 1 gram i gained 32 lbs. What is so hard to believe, I mean I know its hard when you wish you could gain half that, but being angry at me isnt gonna help that, is it.

[Booz]

calm down mate........................
i must admit i find it hard to beleive that anyone could gain that much just using 250mg test weekly....................
but we will leave it at that........who really cares wether he did or not...its not worth arguing over.............................................. .......................
to go from 250mg-1g is absurd...500mg weekly will be more than ample.....

how old and what are the stats of your brother.....

[hosam4ever]

y 1 g for 2nd cycle this is an over dose let him do 500 mg he will gain with it alote of mass

[SVTMuscle*]

unless you plan on competing hard or strength competitions, there is no need for 1 gram of Sust a week

[Warrior]

that's a lot for a second cycle. eod, some weeks will be three shots, some will be four. the avg. weekly amount will be:
(3*250 + 4*250)/2 = 875mg/week
I'd go w/ a single ester at 750mg/week for the second run.

More like (250/2)7=875mg/week... but thats exactly how I calculate it. 250mg of TE E3D would be 583mg per week...

[Warrior]

Hes going to burn out his receptors and next cycle will have to increase not getting great gains.

I still don't go over a gram a week - well, usually... and have ran several cycles. I don't like stacking a whole bunch of AAS. My last cycle was Sust250 EOD... thats it, and it was good. If you are still within a reasonable amount of LBM and can't gain with over 10 times the testosterone of the average joe - you're really in trouble. If anything the receptors upregulate because of your increase in LBM. You don't need more gear everytime - you need more food, more rest and harder training. Sorry dude, I just don't buy into that "you have to keep increasing because you burn out your recptors" thing...

Hell, I'd jump into a TE only cycle today at 250mg E3D's and love it...

But I guess it depends on your goals... if you are trying for a pro card - you might need to start increasing your weekly steroid use to really push your system for more anabolism...

[marcus300]

calm down mate........................
i must admit i find it hard to beleive that anyone could gain that much just using 250mg test weekly....................
but we will leave it at that........who really cares wether he did or not...its not worth arguing over.............................................. .......................
to go from 250mg-1g is absurd...500mg weekly will be more than ample.....

how old and what are the stats of your brother.....

Agree with booz on this one, to much of a jump, 500mg per wk for his second cycle with be fine, concentrate on the diet more, alot of first timers forget how important this is.

Marcus

[hosam4ever]

somtimes more aas means more sides not gains

[vitor]

I still don't go over a gram a week - well, usually... and have ran several cycles. I don't like stacking a whole bunch of AAS. My last cycle was Sust250 EOD... thats it, and it was good. If you are still within a reasonable amount of LBM and can't gain with over 10 times the testosterone of the average joe - you're really in trouble. If anything the receptors upregulate because of your increase in LBM. You don't need more gear everytime - you need more food, more rest and harder training. Sorry dude, I just don't buy into that "you have to keep increasing because you burn out your recptors" thing...

Hell, I'd jump into a TE only cycle today at 250mg E3D's and love it...

But I guess it depends on your goals... if you are trying for a pro card - you might need to start increasing your weekly steroid use to really push your system for more anabolism...

Someone who is way over hes genetic limit might need atleast 1g ew yust to maintain what he already got. And to make futher gains he might need 2 or even 3 or even 4g ew, to make futher gains.

While a guy who is close or at hes genitic limit will defently see results with as little as 250mgs ew. (3x your natty test)

How much drugs you need to grow, depends how advanced you are.

[muscle_20]

if he gained so much of 250mg per week why does he want to times his dosages by 4??!

[Warrior]

Someone who is way over hes genetic limit might need atleast 1g ew yust to maintain what he already got. And to make futher gains he might need 2 or even 3 or even 4g ew, to make futher gains.

While a guy who is close or at hes genitic limit will defently see results with as little as 250mgs ew. (3x your natty test)

How much drugs you need to grow, depends how advanced you are.

You are correct sir... I agree... and then things like bridgeing also becomes necessary... since retaining those gains with his endogenous levels is near impossible.