Tren cycle for mass/strength with hgh??

[simm]

Has anybody here had any gains from taking trenbolone and hgh? I realise that hgh must be taken for 6+ months for any kind of gain,but i would like to know of anybodys experiences with these 2 together if poss!!
Also wat in your opinions is my best choice for mass,strength and light cutting all on same cycle? Thanks

[simm]

By the way..I am 28..260lbs 6'5...10yrs weight training and mma..
Cycle experience...Basic 500mg test enth/300mg deca p/week for 12 weeks
250mg test enth/50mg dbol p/week 10 weeks
100mg adrol/75mg tren eod

Excellent gains with all cycles so far but wanna start a serious cycle including tren and hgh? Open to other options!!!

[goose]

Are you looking for synergy with your HGH.. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones,insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolics in general,can be tren.This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.I must point out in this case that HGH has a predominantly anabolic effect.There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are STH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids. Then a synergetic effect takes place.'Are you still wondering why pro 100 meter runners are so incredibly fast and strong but, at the same time, totally ripped while you are not,well this could be the answer.


goose...

[simm]

Yes i am looking for synergy with the hgh,yet i really do not wanna mess around with insulin at any stage, as i do not have the cycle experience or knowledge to use a powerful substance like that!! Would using tren/hgh and a cutter work well together without the insulin shots?? I am also a little worried about using t-3 and messing up my thyroid!! Any info on a good cycle would be appreciated!

[IBdmfkr]

Are you looking for synergy with your HGH.. When using HGH the body also needs more thyroid hormones,insulin, corticosteroids, gonadotropins, estrogens and what a surprise androgens and anabolics in general,can be tren.This is also the reason why HGH, when taken alone, is considerably less effective and can only reach its optimum effect by the additive intake of steroids, thyorid hormones, and insulin, in particular.I must point out in this case that HGH has a predominantly anabolic effect.There are three hormones which are needed at the same time in order to allow for maximum anabolic effect. These are STH, insulin, and an LT-3 thyroid hormone, such as, for example, Cytomel. Only then can the liver produce and release an optimal amount of somatomedin and insulin-like growth factors. This anabolic effect can be further enhanced by taking a substance with an anticatabolic effect. These substances are-everybody should probably know by now-anabolic/androgenic steroids. Then a synergetic effect takes place.'Are you still wondering why pro 100 meter runners are so incredibly fast and strong but, at the same time, totally ripped while you are not,well this could be the answer.


goose...

Nice summary Goose. I take 25mcg/day in the morning of T3 with Gh wondering if that is enough or if I should split it 12.5 + 12.5.

[goose]

Well simm-

I don`t use slin and I get great results with HGH,it`s a question of what you believe in and how hardcore you want to go.Dude one of the best cutters is:

tren
test pop

Run these with a great diet,and your HGH,you will be a ripped mother.While Trenbolone is quite potent when used with test, it was generally combined with other steroids for an even greater effect. During a cutting phase you could add a non-aromatizing anabolic such as Winstrol or Primobolan. I love this combination it will elicit a greater level density and hardness to the muscle,I`m on Winstrol at the moment at 200mg ED with Primo,and it`s the most Incredible time I have had,pure class,producing real pure muscle.

IB-

Well it`s not easy what is the correct dose of T3 according to your dose HGH dose and whether your on 5`2 or EOD or ED.I have around one year experience with HGH,so I`m still learning myself.I only take 12.5mcg of T3 with my HGH each day,as I run my HGH ED.I would try both see how you feel.

[simm]

Thanks for that goose...At wat dose would you run the tren and test prop? If combining these two should i just stick wiv 20mg nolva ed or more,as this looks like an aromatising stack! Also wat milligramme would yeild better results for me as i am already 260/230 cut! Tren a or e? Thanks alot
Also congrats on your AR VET status..just noticed....lol

[Booz]

i personally only use a low dose T3 the same as goose....................

[SPIKE]

I take 25mcg/day in the morning of T3 with Gh wondering if that is enough or if I should split it 12.5 + 12.5.

Keep taking the full dose on an empty stomach every morning. Whether 12.5 or 25mcg, take it all in one dose. I've been on 12.5mcy for the past 2 months may bump it up to 25mcg. We shall see...........

[Booz]

i shall be using 25mcg this summer.........................

[taiboxa]

i shall be using 25mcg this summer.........................

if u run tren/gh in combo i would up it to about 50mcg in all honesty.. i get leaner and meaner off that andi feel abuot average though everyone is diff

[Booz]

if u run tren/gh in combo i would up it to about 50mcg in all honesty.. i get leaner and meaner off that andi feel abuot average though everyone is diff

tren is only one of the compounds in my summer cycle........i may end up lookin like you lol...........................................

[goose]

Thanks for that goose...At wat dose would you run the tren and test prop? If combining these two should i just stick wiv 20mg nolva ed or more,as this looks like an aromatising stack! Also wat milligramme would yeild better results for me as i am already 260/230 cut! Tren a or e? Thanks alot
Also congrats on your AR VET status..just noticed....lol

If you use tren please use tren A,you will have much less sides.Just use an anti E that you would do with a test cycle you have done,Trenbolone does not convert to estrogen. This is indeed a very unique compound since mass drugs, almost as a rule, will aromatize (or cause other estrogen related troubles)

The high androgen level resulting from this steroid, in the absence is excess estrogen, can also accelerate the burning of body fat. The result should be a much tighter physique, hopefully without the need for extreme dieting with HGH.As for the dose it`s a personal thing,but mabe 50-75 mg ED for a starters,and make sure your test dose is higher than tren to avoid deca dick.


goose....

[IBdmfkr]

Keep taking the full dose on an empty stomach every morning. Whether 12.5 or 25mcg, take it all in one dose. I've been on 12.5mcy for the past 2 months may bump it up to 25mcg. We shall see...........

There is the problem, my stomache is NEVER empty! lol I'll just have to stick it in 5mins before breakfast. During PCT I'll drop to 12.5 as well, 25mcg/day during.

[taiboxa]

tren is only one of the compounds in my summer cycle........i may end up lookin like you lol...........................................

ROFL if u end up lookin like me then... im SORRY.