Mass + strength cycle ideas?

[simm]

Guys i need some advice! My brother is 32 and wants to start a steroid cycle. He will be doing a bodybuilding routine + interval running 2x per week!
Could you please tell me a cycle that would add muscle mass yet not be harsh on the liver and not effect stamina too much (i realise the added weight gain will cause a slight stamina decrease)! Do not want to add test to this cycle if poss! D'bol + other compounds would be ok! Any info appreciated? Thanks

[Kappa Capo]

Tbol+Tren A
Add Hcg if you dont wanna run testo..

[taiboxa]

not crazy bout tren w/o test by any means.
and tren will annihilate his stamina.

EQ would be most ideal w/ var which isnt really hepatoxic in anyway.
use var in front for 8 weeks run eq for 15

[FullMoonHowlingWolf]

I agree with taiboxa, EQ and Var should be a good cycle for your brother. It's a good idea for him to get his blood work done before and during his cycle.

[taiboxa]

get his blood work done on the 7th week of var.. i did one time at 100mgED and my liver was PERFECT lol and the var was LEGIT i assure you.
which means if he felt comfortable he could take 2-3weeks off of var and run it for another 7 to finish out the dead time of EQ

like
1-7 var
1-15 Eq
10-18 var

[simm]

New to this...A'var for 8 weeks by itself then stop var at end of 8th week and switch to Eq? Also what kind of dosages would bring about best effects? Thanx

[Kappa Capo]

I did not see that you needed to have good stamina bro.

Masteron and tbol then.

[taiboxa]

New to this...A'var for 8 weeks by itself then stop var at end of 8th week and switch to Eq? Also what kind of dosages would bring about best effects? Thanx

nono at same time.

WKs 1-7 var
Wks 1-15 Eq
Wks 10-18 var

or mast/tbol but i think var/eq would be more feasible.

[taiotosh7]

Why no test?

[Smedman101]

Var at 40 mg day at min....

eq 400 mg week

Only as a suggestion, not knowing his goals or history...This will be a lite cycle and safe, with what tailboxa said

Why do not want to use test?

[simm]

Doesn't wanna use test as he started to loose hair after using a 10ml bottle of test suspension bout 8yrs ago! He is just looking for strength and mass yet not wanting to loose too much stamina! Sounds good as this seems like a mild cycle to me..How much will this aromatise if any? Thanks

[taiboxa]

Doesn't wanna use test as he started to loose hair after using a 10ml bottle of test suspension bout 8yrs ago! He is just looking for strength and mass yet not wanting to loose too much stamina! Sounds good as this seems like a mild cycle to me..How much will this aromatise if any? Thanks

nothing worth worrying about THATS for sure.

[vitor]

I dont think eq/var is the best combination, only because they bind to the same recepter(androgen recepter). Their isnt much "synergi" with a eq/var stack.

I defently think it would be better to stack eq with something that is effective at the non-AR meditaded mechanism. So you get anabolic activity from a different angle. For example, winstrol.

[simm]

Thanks very much for the input guys!! Much appreciated!

[goose]

You could do this:

Dbol 30mg.
Masteron 100mg every other day.
Var 60mg.

A mate is in this cycle now,very nice strength gains.

[taiboxa]

You could do this:

Dbol 30mg.
Masteron 100mg every other day.
Var 60mg.

A mate is in this cycle now,very nice strength gains.

ha D-VAR! i have yet to try it but hey what ever works

[Rickson]

Can you explain why you are against test in the cycle but ok with dbol? Maybe I missed it but prop would cause minimal stamina effects and at 32 would really make him feel better in many ways.

[trulbfan3]

Using test wuuld be optimal. but if hes hellbent on not running test and wants to only use drugs w/ mild side affects hes not going to really blow up but you can make some really good quality gains w/ var and eq. if he will use test and wnts quality gains he could run test, eq, and var "optional"

[simm]

Can you explain why you are against test in the cycle but ok with dbol? Maybe I missed it but prop would cause minimal stamina effects and at 32 would really make him feel better in many ways.

He blows up on d'bol yet finds test makes him nauseaus and ill..He had great gains on d'bol b4 and just want's to stick wiv wat he knows works! Nothing against test as when i use it i placed 35lbs on in 6 weeks and kept 15 yet we were newbies! The A'var and eq stack is what he is looking at doing now you guys said it is low aromatising and it will be a nice steady strength/mass increase! When doing this cycle,what kind of weight/strength gains are possible? I say 'are possible,' as i realise everybody gains differently! Thanks again

[mr. snakes]

He blows up on d'bol yet finds test makes him nauseaus and ill..He had great gains on d'bol b4 and just want's to stick wiv wat he knows works! Nothing against test as when i use it i placed 35lbs on in 6 weeks and kept 15 yet we were newbies! The A'var and eq stack is what he is looking at doing now you guys said it is low aromatising and it will be a nice steady strength/mass increase! When doing this cycle,what kind of weight/strength gains are possible? I say 'are possible,' as i realise everybody gains differently! Thanks again

Tell him to stick with Dbol if he doesn't want to run test....................