Jump start w/ Superdrol?

[CatalysT]

hey guys i have a few questions for those who have experiance on Superdrol... i have seriously been considering this as an option... i havent been training for too long but i would like to get a jump start. i have my diet down packed and my work out rutien is stright. i have ordered and already recieved superdrol and my pct witch is Rebound XT and Inhibit E or somthing like that. i would be doing a low dosage cycel of 10/10/20 and than go on pct. ALL FEED BACK IS APPREACHIATED! <----- mis-spelled ha ha

[BajanBastard]

You sure you want to start steroids this early in the game? As for SD IMO you're better off drinking draino.

[D-Bo Dre]

This cat is prob. tired of hearing he's too young, and no one here is his mommy. Sooo If you got your mind made up, make sure u do it right catalyst.. Get your supporting supps ready, and get your facts straight and plan a good pct. In my opinion Nolva should be run for PCT.

[anabolicvenom]

You sure you want to start steroids this early in the game? As for SD IMO you're better off drinking draino.

i disagree with this statement SD has very good results imo. very good strength gains and very clean/dry weight gain.

[CatalysT]

thanks for the support Dre*. i was reading an old post a wile ago that you to did SD and made some good gains, do you have any siggustions on diet while on Superdrol? should i keep it the same as it is now (its a good diet 50g pro 45g carbs 3750 cals) or is it nessicery to tweek it?

[anabolicvenom]

the only bad thing with SD its pretty harsh on the liver!

[Liftnainez]

This cat is prob. tired of hearing he's too young, and no one here is his mommy. Sooo If you got your mind made up, make sure u do it right catalyst.. Get your supporting supps ready, and get your facts straight and plan a good pct. In my opinion Nolva should be run for PCT.

probably tired of hearing it?? maybe thats bc he should hear it some more.. he says in his post that he hasnt been training for to long.. so why the hell jump on something from the start?? His decision is wrong to start with a SD cycle.. im not saying it wouldnt yield results, but why start now when a good diet and good training regimine would be just as helpful..

[CatalysT]

the only bad thing with SD its pretty harsh on the liver!

yeah so i hear but i have some Milk thistle and im going to be taking that at 1000mg ed so i should be set for that *knocks on wood* ha ha

[anabolicvenom]

probably tired of hearing it?? maybe thats bc he should hear it some more.. he says in his post that he hasnt been training seriously.. so why the hell jump on something from the start?? His decision is wrong to start with a SD cycle.. im not saying it wouldnt yield results, but why start now when a good diet and good training regimine would be just as helpful..

i agree!

[anabolicvenom]

WHOA! i just saw your age! you will probably be banned in little while since you are supposed to b at least 18.

[CatalysT]

oh, i have i hit the gym up 6 times a week very vigorisly i work hard i just havent been training for 5 years or anything but i have been training seriously

[CatalysT]

i am 18 i turned 18 3 months ago

[anabolicvenom]

i thought it said june? it dosnt matter you can grow a ton naturally u only weight 137lbs! up your intake of calories and protein!

[CatalysT]

yeah so thats it...

[CatalysT]

i have them pritty high dude, i take about 50g of protein in a day (at least) and about 3750 cals im just stuck with sh*tty genetics...

[BajanBastard]

i have them pritty high dude, i take about 50g of protein in a day (at least) and about 3750 cals im just stuck with sh*tty genetics...

Yeah SD will solve all your problems.

[BajanBastard]

You sure you want to start steroids this early in the game? As for SD IMO you're better off drinking draino.

i disagree with this statement SD has very good results imo. very good strength gains and very clean/dry weight gain.

the only bad thing with SD its pretty harsh on the liver!

Make up your mind dude.

[CatalysT]

well i was kind of hoping to get more help/tips than pple saying not to do it, if i made up my mind cant you guys just advise me to get good results... thats what this fourm is for any ways isnt it?

[CatalysT]

Yeah SD will solve all your problems.

that was sarcasim? is that what the smilie was suppose to sigust to me? elaborate please..

[BajanBastard]

well i was kind of hoping to get more help/tips than pple saying not to do it, if i made up my mind cant you guys just advise me to get good results... thats what this fourm is for any ways isnt it?

I sure as hell won't and any responsible member wouldn't either.

[CatalysT]

so... your saying there is nothing you can do to stop me, but there is no way in hell your going to help me, to get the best, safest, healthies gains possible off of SD? so i came on this fourm to let you know my decission not to get help? cool dude THANKS man your my HERO!!

[CatalysT]

[shadyadam]

well i was kind of hoping to get more help/tips than pple saying not to do it, if i made up my mind cant you guys just advise me to get good results... thats what this fourm is for any ways isnt it?

You want tips?

Don't do SD your not ready for it! Why? Two reasons.

1. Your age - You still have alot of growing to do and SD is death to your liver worse then most stuff out there already!

2. Your diet - It sucks man...you should be taking in waaaay more protien try like your bodyweight X 1.5 = how much protien you should be taking in!

You want good results?

Try changing your DIET first...

Try changing your WORKOUT'S

[CatalysT]

dude my diet is stright it has come from a highly experianced nutritionalist from my county and pple here tell me it is down tight! my work outs? ha i would be suprised if some pple on here could do what i do (well if they were my size) i am small (no muscle mass) but have made very good streignth gains in they past year or so that i have been lifting. it is not my diet or my work out it is simply my SH*T genes and i am hoping that SD could push me over that speed bump... thats all i just wanted some advice on how to go about the safest way and i cant even get that these fourms are a joke AAS resurch Q's and A's Fourms.. HA more like parental giduence to lifting fourms...

[shadyadam]

Here you go f.uck wad injoy your SD cycle

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=48431.0

[CatalysT]

Here you go f.uck wad injoy your SD cycle

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=48431.0

wow dude i was making no personal insult. i was making one toward this fourm and how no one will be helpful but wow, sossy to offend you...

[BajanBastard]

If the forum is a joke fukking LEAVE! No one is keeping you here. People are trying to keep you safe, stop blaming your genes for your shitty diet. I'm a certified health instructor and i have some true ectomorph as clients right now, and the first thing they said is how much they eat and can't gain weight. After i reviewed their diet turned out they were hardly eating at all. After constant adjustments to their diets over a 3-4 week period they started to gain LMB w/o any drugs or unneeded supplements. So yeah go take the SD, in fact take the whole bottle! See how good it does you and good luck keeping and maintaining the gains w/o adequate caloric consumption.

[pumpd4lif]

i must agree ur diet needs mad work bro ur not even close u want to put on easy weight.(i take about 50g of protein in a day) is def not enough try like 100 atleast an it sounds like u have a fast metab an new to the game so lets keep it simple along with the 100 grams of protein eat a nice size bowl of oatmeal before u got to sleep it has slow burning prot in it and it should last thru both natrual growth hormone releases witch acur while u sleep an u should really take halodrol-50 instead of the sd it doesnt convert in ur system.an i am a firm beleiver in creatine it always puts atleast 10 lbs on me.do urslef a favor an put the sd aside for now an up those carbs cause i dont care what ur taking it could be sus even an with ur diet u will see poor results if any.set a goal for urself reach a weight og 150 then maybe take something a little more serius.if not u will hinder ur body,s natraul ability to grow.

[pumpd4lif]

u should also take the milkthistle while on the hol-50 and dont take for more than 4 weeks it is just as hard on ur body as sd but less side effects i think the sd along with th 17 hd also destroys white blood cells and that is why some people get a sick feeling like the flew the 17 hd is even worse it also thins ur blood it shouldnt be sold for muscle growth at all(just because it makes ur meat whistle hard dont mean it builds or even supports muscle)but sd will help u put on weight.use the force young jedi

[lowell34]

Let me give you a plug on the Superdrol. I own a gym and I sell a ton of Superdrol. If it didn't work, I wouldn't have so many repeat customers. In my gym, the average Superdrol user is between 18 and 30 and fairly new to weight lifting. So far I have not had anybody gain less than 15 pounds on Superdrol over the first 4 weeks. I was so impressed with the results that I got on it myself. I'm up 7 pounds in a week on nothing but Superdrol and I've got a bunch of AS cycles under my belt.
Also, I don't sell anything, especially to newbies, without doing a ton of research on the product. I've found a ton of research on Superdrol and it's basically a mix of Anadrol and Winstrol without the side effects. I've not seen anything to indicate you need to worry about liver problems.
Personally, I'd much rather see you try Superdrol than a true anabolic steroid at your age. I think you will be very happy with your Superdrol results. And, I doubt very seriously that 4 weeks of Superdrol will shut down your natural test production, but I can highly recommend Gaspari Nutritions Novadex XT for your pct.
With all that said, you do need to take a serious look at your nutritional intake. If you don't get that protein WAYYY up, then there's not a product on the planet that is gonna help you muscle up.
Good luck to ya'

[Hellmaskbanned]

i have them pritty high dude, i take about 50g of protein in a day (at least) and about 3750 cals im just stuck with sh*tty genetics...

You and me both.

NICE AVATAR PIC! sorry got off topic.

Bro you weigh 137lbs and eat like a fasting feild mouse in kenya. Get your diet in check (ITS NOT IN CHECK DONT SAY IT IS!).

Unless your shorter than an umpalumpa you have alot more room to grow naturally. Remember , it's your health, why risk it over short lived gains due to bad training/diet.

[BajanBastard]

Let me give you a plug on the Superdrol. I own a gym and I sell a ton of Superdrol. If it didn't work, I wouldn't have so many repeat customers. In my gym, the average Superdrol user is between 18 and 30 and fairly new to weight lifting. So far I have not had anybody gain less than 15 pounds on Superdrol over the first 4 weeks. I was so impressed with the results that I got on it myself. I'm up 7 pounds in a week on nothing but Superdrol and I've got a bunch of AS cycles under my belt.
Also, I don't sell anything, especially to newbies, without doing a ton of research on the product. I've found a ton of research on Superdrol and it's basically a mix of Anadrol and Winstrol without the side effects. I've not seen anything to indicate you need to worry about liver problems.
Personally, I'd much rather see you try Superdrol than a true anabolic steroid at your age. I think you will be very happy with your Superdrol results. And, I doubt very seriously that 4 weeks of Superdrol will shut down your natural test production, but I can highly recommend Gaspari Nutritions Novadex XT for your pct.
With all that said, you do need to take a serious look at your nutritional intake. If you don't get that protein WAYYY up, then there's not a product on the planet that is gonna help you muscle up.
Good luck to ya'

I'm really trying my best not to lose it. SD IS A FUKKING STEROID, just like all the other 'pro-steroids'like M1T, MoHN etc, it's drostanolone aka masteron with a methyl group, is that's not a true steroid i done know what is. No one here is saying that SD does not give good gains all we're saying is that he should not use SD or any steroid for that matter until he fixes his diet and get some more yrs training under his belt.

Oh and SD use has been show to significantly raise liver enzymes.

[lowell34]

here's a good read from anoth
Superdrol (methasteron) is definitely not a prohormone: it is a very active form of a designer supplement. Superdrol gets its name from the fact that it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone (Masteron). Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position, like M1T or M-Dien. However you may wish to look at it, it is by this simple-looking transformation that Superdrol comes to occupy the sweet spot between the chemical natures of Anadrol and Masteron.

Since it is already reduced at the 5th position, it cannot make estrogen. Progesterone is not an issue: perhaps 0.1% can aromatize, in theory. In fact, this compound should not have any major metabolites at all. Maybe a few hydroxylated adrenal metabolites, but only traces. It is basically excreted unchanged as the conjugated glucuronate. The extra electron density at the 2 makes Superdrol 2-3x as anabolic (mg for mg) than Anadrol. To borrow from the language of genetics, Superdrol is a fine example of hybrid vigor: it has only the best attributes of each, and none of the worst. This is a supplement designed to have it all.

Anadrol/oxymetholone 17ß-hydroxy-2-hydroxymethylene-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-3-one
Superdrol/methasteron 2a,17a-Dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one
Masteron/drostanolone 2a-methyl-17ß -hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one
Proviron/mesterolone 1a-methyl-17ß -hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one


EFFECTS

Anabolic effects & dosing requirements
As fascinating as all this chemistry might be, you are probably much more interested in how well Superdrol is going to work. What you are going to gain, and how much it will take you to make these gains? The gains from Superdrol are very dry and lean, so numbers do not tell the whole story, but let us look at them nonetheless. According to the book values, Superdrol should be 20% as androgenic as the reference standard methyl-test, and 400-800% as anabolic, while M1T is 910-1600%, and Anadrol closer to 300%, while being twice as androgenic as Superdrol, mg for mg. So in theory, Superdrol should be half as anabolic as the same dosage of M1T, and 10-20% as androgenic. This would mean that it should take twice the dosage of Superdrol to match the anabolic effects of M1T, at which dosage its androgenic side-effects would be 20-40% of those from M1T. Fortunately in the case of Superdrol it exceeds in practice its theoretical promise. All testers – who were selected in part because of their experience with M1T – found that the muscle gains produced from Superdrol were no less than 2/3 of what a comparable dose of M1T would have given them. Moreover, they found very few side-effects to complain about.
What this means for you is that you will need somewhere between 10 and 40mg of Superdrol per day. Period. There was, certainly, a desire to get this product to market before the ban, but because we were able to keep its chemistry secret, competition did not force it to be rushed, as was the case with M-Dien. Accordingly, proper testing was carried out, allowing us to determine real world dosing recommendations, not ballpark theoretical numbers. The following recommendations are honest and accurate: 10-15mg will be sufficient for beginners under 200lbs; 20-25mg for those advanced lifters under 200lbs, or for those above 200lbs but untrained; 30-35mg for men who have seriously trained themselves but are under 240lbs. For men who think they need to run a dose which falls between the use of whole capsules, one extra 10mg capsule can be taken before workouts, such that the weekly average is appropriate. as a rule of thumb, Superdrol will require 50% more of a dose than M1T to give you comparable gains in muscle. Any women who are entertaining the possibility of using Superdrol should reduce the weight to accord with their sex and their height, and then divide these dosages by a factor of no less than ten. Capsules will then have to be diluted in liquid to be measured accurately. For men, 40mg is a dose only for the very large or the true non-responders, by which I mean people who do not see results on less than 30mg of M1T. Very few people will need 40mg of Superdrol, and no one will need above 50mg. If used in a stack reduce the daily dose by 5-10mg, which would be very prudent given how well Superdrol will stack, and if not its expense, then your very limited supply.
The testers whose dosing fit the above guidelines gained, on average, five pounds of muscle in under three weeks, while losing water and gaining no fat on hyper caloric bulking diets. The quality of the gains from Superdrol comes from its likeness to Masteron while the quantity comes from its similarity to Anadrol. Masteron, expensive and very rare, is almost a perfect cutting steroid, being highly androgenic and anti-estrogenic. If you must have a rough comparison to something already out there, one tester described the quality of gains as being akin to those from fina or a test/halo combo, but such comparisons are bound to be inexact. Gains are very dry, and it makes muscles noticeably more hard and dense. The explosive gains from Anadrol are accompanied by a great deal of water retention and fat. M1T, as you surely well know, produces explosive gains not unlike those of Anadrol, but this comes at a cost. More on this later. As to how difficult it is to retain the gains from Superdrol, you are invited to follow the testers’ post-cycle results. To date, the results are promising, with no loss of mass or vascularity. The gains from Superdrol will be impressive, and they will not take long to start, but they will be more gradual to be recognized than those which come from aromatizing steroids. Your numbers in the gym and on the tape measure will go up, not explosively, but they will go up surely and steadily. The diuretic effect of Superdrol will at first mask the gains as you lose water and gain muscle. When mass begins to increase, it should do so disproportionately compared to tape-measurements. So if you are only checking the scale, or if you are not lean enough to notice the loss of water, persist and be rewarded.
Strength
Anadrol is famous for explosive gains in strength. M1T is not. Superdrol shares with Anadrol a capacity for impressive, but consistent, gains in strength. Testers experienced dramatic and immediate strength gains, when consuming sufficient calories. To their surprise and our delight, every single one became stronger every single workout, and many personal bests were recorded, while volume increased. Being a DHT derivative, it is a fair question to ask whether the strength gains from Superdrol can be maintained, or whether they will not dissipate shortly after one terminates use of the drug. In response to this, consider that 1) the strength gains from pure androgens are not generally accompanied by proportional gains in mass, and 2) the gains in both strength and mass which result from dianabol/m1,4add are - besides being accompanied by bloating - diminished soon after one goes off, they don’t just disappear, but they are hard to keep. If the mass gains from Superdrol are solid rather than fleeting, then the strength which came with this increase in muscle mass should be much easier to maintain than those which can result from the use of Anadrol, Dianabol/M1,4ADD, or many of the pure androgens, which achieve a significant amount of their effect on strength through their psychotropic effects on focus and aggression.

Athletic Performance
Along with marked increases in strength, all testers observed undeniable increases in their endurance, whether in cardio or adding to the sets they could perform. Breathing and heart rates were not as high as expected. Given Superdrol’s chemical relation to Anadrol and Masteron, it was speculated that this could be due to an increase in red blood cell (RBC) count, which would allow the use of more oxygen. Masteron has also been used as an Anadrol alternative for aplastic anemia, so it should be a strong immune stimulator and RBC booster, as many 5-reduced compounds are. In Anadrol, the extra stamina which should accompany the known increase in RBC is largely counteracted by the estrogen related effects. Because these are absent with Superdrol, increased RBC count may seemed a probable explanation for the increase in endurance. But because the increased endurance occurred quickly, I am hesitant to assert that an increased RBC count is the reason. Shortly after this appears in print, there should be blood work available to confirm or deny this. No matter the explanation, Superdrol does increase endurance significantly.

Fluid Retention
Masteron and Anadrol are on the opposite ends of the spectrum in regards to fluid retention. In this regard, Superdrol lies close to Masteron, which – being unable either to convert to estrogen or mimic the effects of estrogen – has typically been used for reducing water retention while increasing muscle hardness and density. The rapid gains in mass caused by Anadrol involve not a little water retention: bloating is unavoidable, as with Dianabol/M1,4ADD. With Superdrol, there is no extra water retention. There is not even facial bloating. It forms no estrogen, so the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone (RAAS) system cannot be activated to cause any water retention. M1T has the unfortunate effect of causing water retention in the kidneys, which can be painful, and is definitely unhealthy.
The pumps for which Anadrol is known are caused by an increase in the volume of blood, some of it RBC but much of it water. Blood pressure rises accordingly, and can lead to headaches, other forms of discomfort, or worse. The pumps from Superdrol could well be the result of the volumization of blood without the water gain, as noted above. It is in fact a mild diuretic. This helps contribute to the unmatched vascularity noticed in lean individuals. Because it dries you out, unless you are cutting for a reason, like a contest, you should increase your water intake accordingly. You can expect to drop at least several pounds of water in your first few days of use. From testers who monitored their blood pressure, there was no indication that it rose significantly, nor were there in others symptoms of high BP, for example, face turning beet red, or feeling nauseous after a few light sets. The pumps and increased vascularity from Superdrol are pleasant - “my biceps feel flexed when at rest” in the words of one tester. That is, until the dose is becomes too high, at which point Superdrol shares with Anadrol back pumps, cramps, or aches. These can inhibit workouts. At proper doses, these are fleeting, not unlike those from M1T, but not as severe. However, the tester who challenged the highest dose experienced such discomfort that he literally had to lay on the gym floor in between sets. It seems that Superdrol has a built in mechanism, harmless enough, to prevent its abuse.


Fat
Masteron is very effective in cutting cycles to reduce bodyfat; Anadrol does not mind putting on a few pounds ‘for the winter.’ Superdrol testers were all eating well, no one was cutting, and mass was going up faster than tape-measurements. It was wondered whether Superdrol exhibited fat-burning properties like tren. This can be discounted, and explained instead as a diuretic effect: testers size did not change dramatically because they lost water, while their muscles grew and became more dense. So in regard to fat, Superdrol falls right between Masteron and Anadrol: one could say that it neutral in terms of partitioning. When using Superdrol, fat will not magically melt away, but nor will it especially inhibit fat loss on a cut. It will not especially prime you for fat gains on a bulk, but if you do not watch your diet you can get fat.

Psychological Effects
The psychological effects of Anadrol and Masteron are noticeable, if not as pronounced as with some other DHT derivatives. It was not clear what, if any, psychological effects should have been expected from Superdrol, given how little its androgenic effects looked to be on paper. What the testers found, to begin with was that Superdrol felt “somatically clean,” meaning that there was zero sense of physical malaise or indisposition which is common to Anadrol and especially M1T. On the contrary, testers had a sense of physical well-being, a clean feeling of being ‘on’ – as distinct from the sure knowledge that one is growing, even if one doesn’t feel well, that one gets from M1T or Anadrol. This feeling was not as pronounced as with Dianabol. Psychologically, the following were attributed to the use of Superdrol: confidence, assertiveness, focus, increased libido, the need to do something, aggressiveness in the gym, a command mindset, and some irritability – especially upon ramping up to the next dosing level. One tester described the CNS stimulation he got from doing 30mg at once as being stronger than 50mg of M5, 32mg of M4OHN, or EC. Endurance and strength should be mentioned here as well, because while above I have offered physical explanations for them, some of this effect could well be psychological, in which case it would dissipate upon cessation of the use of Superdrol. There was some increase in appetite for some of the testers, a decrease for others; in either case this was not overwhelming.

Recovery
Recovery time on Superdrol was improved, slightly but noticeably - not on a par, however, with a similar dose of M1T, let alone Anadrol. In this light you should be reminded that the increases in strength which you will experience on Superdrol do not come with a proportional increase in the strength of connective tissue. So when using Superdrol, you should observe strict form in the gym or else you invites injury, which obviously defeats the purpose of any kind of performance enhancing agent.

ADVERSE EFFECTS

Across the board, testers were astounded by the virtual absence of unwelcome side-effects from Superdrol use. One tester, already balding, mentioned an occasional itchy scalp. The only exception to the clean bill given to Superdrol was noted earlier, lower back pain at excessive doses. This lack of side-effects can be attributed to Superdrol’s very low androgenic capacity and its anti-estrogenic effects.

Everything OK in there?
So what’s the catch, the bad news? From the provisional results, there does not seem to be any bad news. You should be sure to check the results of the testers’ blood work which will appear in their logs. If I were to speculate as to what could be most worrying, it would be if Superdrol lowered HDL (good cholesterol) levels into the single digits - something which M1T is very good at doing. As to hepatotoxicity, Superdrol is estimated to be more toxic than M4OHN, while far less toxic than M1T. The blood work will tell, but there was absolutely no indication from any of the testers, or from the chemistry of Superdrol, that it should be highly toxic. The unbearable back pumps which accompany excessive use of Superdrol effectively limits its potential for abuse. There were no indications of high blood pressure: headaches, nosebleeds, or anything of the sort. Testers were not fatigued or lightheaded, or any of the other symptoms of low blood sugar levels, as accompanies the use of M1T and Anadrol. Superdrol could still have some effect on this, however, and it something to keep in mind, especially if one will simultaneously be using Glucophase XR. Sleep was not interrupted, nor was it reported to be noticeably improved. Nausea and diarrhea were absent.

Unwelcome Growth
As stated earlier, Superdrol is a mild androgen, and anti-estrogenic. Testers found no occurrence of acne, excessive hair growth, indications of benign prostate hypertrophy (BPH). You will not want to brave the back cramps to take enough of this to make you have to begin to be worried about androgenic sides. At 40mg, one tester noticed a tendency to bruise more easily. Zero estrogen conversion with this one, because it's 5-reduced and A-ring alkylated on top of that. Binding to the aromatase enzyme, estrogen production will be reduced. Also, the parent compound (Masteron) is used exclusively as an anti-neoplastic for metastatic breast cancer, so Superdrol is a strong anti-e. Clearly, Superdrol is not progestational, it is non-aromatizable, and even anti-estrogenic. But this said, it is worth reminding you that no one is clear on what the reasons are for why people get gyno. It can occur even in people using substances with these characteristics. One tester thought he could be having some early symptoms of gyno, although on paper there is clearly no reason to suspect Superdrol contributed to this. The point to take from this is that it is imperative to always have nolvadex or generic tamoxifen citrate powder on hand to administer at the first notice of symptoms of gyno.

Unwelcome Losses
As has been stated, Superdrol is a mild androgen, and hair loss (androgenetic alopecia) should not be much of a concern if you are not very predisposed to it. Another concern, especially in light of the peoples’ experiences with M1T is the question of how hard Superdrol will shut you down. The testers ran Superdrol by itself, some of them at very high doses. Not one experienced anything to indicate anything like the severe degree of shutdown which almost immediately accompanies the use of M1T. That said, it is inconceivable that Superdrol can do what it does without affecting the HPTA axis, and PCT is always mandatory. Because Superdrol itself is mild in terms of shutdown, if you were to run it by itself, recovery with PCT should be quite easy. Most people, however, will elect to run Superdrol as part of a stack.


NECESSARY SUPPLEMENTS?

In the case of most oral steroids, legal or otherwise, there are a number of supplements which are not really optional. With M1T, everybody’s favorite, 4-AD is really not an option. Liver protection supplements are optional, or they are so only at your peril. And little can be done about perpetually low blood sugar levels, and single-digit HDL levels. Anti-e’s are not specifically necessary for most orals, used alone. With Superdrol, none of these supplements are necessary - and no letro, finasteride, or dex - because none of these side-effects are especially worrisome. The only potential exception is the HDL issue. All steroid use adversely affects HDL levels, but we need to be sure to know how safe Superdrol is in this regard. The results of the testers’ blood work will resolve this worry, or make people aware that this is an issue. In any case, the only thing which could be done about this would be to limit the length of one’s cycle. As mentioned above, supplements are necessary with every steroid for PCT, and Superdrol even though it is mild in terms of suppression is no exception. I mention this here in part to remind you of the possibility that research chemicals may become much more difficult to come across depending on what actions take place subsequent to the ban. With Superdrol, if anything is close to necessary, it would be general liver protection such as from K-R-ALA. Everything else is strictly optional, and can be used in a complementary stack Superdrol, not as something necessary to counter the deficiencies of the primary mass builder.
A very minor issue which you should look for an answer is what the half-life of Superdrol is in the body. If it is short, this will call for dividing your daily dose rather than taking it all at once. If the half-life is longer, it would be an unnecessary inconvenience to do so.


IMPLICATIONS AND STACKS

Cycle Length
Because of the toxicity of Anadrol and M1T, it is highly imprudent to use these for more than four weeks at a higher dose, and six weeks at any dose. For Superdrol, toxicity is not a great concern – little more than with M4OHN. So long as the results of the blood work come back favorably, i.e. if the HDL cholesterol is not reduced to single digit levels after several weeks usage, Superdrol can safely be used for longer cycles than 4 weeks. Otherwise, it should be used only for short cycles, or for short parts of longer cycles – obviously not in succession with M1T. I mention these issues because one of the things most of the testers mentioned is that they feel like they could run Superdrol perpetually: “I can run this forever” - “No, you can’t.” This would obviously be a bad idea.

Stacking
Unlike Masteron, Superdrol obviously works very well on its own. Anadrol is very powerful, but the problems with its use are evident. If you happen to get a lot of Superdrol, you can surely use it to great effect on its own, but given its limited availability, to get the most out of your supply, you will probably want to use it as part of a stack. Superdrol should stack well with pretty much everything, apart from those things which it begs to be used in the place of: such as M1T, M14ADD, DBol, Anadrol or Halo. There should be no need to stack this with another methyl. The only things even to consider this would be mild substances like M4OHN or M5AA, for example. As a rule, if you can find a way not to stack methyls, make the right choice. A low transdermal dose of 3-alpha is a very powerful pure androgen which could take the place of M5AA or MDHT. For bulking cycles, a stack with anything which aromatizes will work very well: Test, EQ/1,4ADione, Nandrolone. A significant amount of mass gains come from the presence of estrogen. Estrogen also stimulates white blood cell production, aiding your immune system, having too little estrogen will predispose you to becoming sick. M1T flu anyone? For more of a lean bulk more limited aromatizers would work very well: 4AD/ester, 19Nordiol/ester, 1,4ADiol, Primo. For a major cut, a non-aromatizing choice is called for, such as very dry mass-builder and/or a pure-androgen to produce sick separation and vascularity: 1-Test/ester or 5aa/ester, 3-alpha, Masteron, or Tren. There are so many combinations, it is really up to you to look at what is available, decide what your goals are, and choose the most appropriate items. You simply need to choose a complementary combination with your budget and your goals in mind.
Listed below are some examples, suggested in discussion with the testers. You should be able to discern their purpose. And there will surely be a good deal of discussion about potential stacks and their merits on the boards.

Superdrol + 1-Test + 4-AD + pure androgen + M4OHN
Superdrol + Test or Sledge Test
Superdrol + 5AD + 3alpha
Superdrol + 4-AD + MDHT + tren
Superdrol + 4-AD + tren
Superdrol + Test or 4-AD + Deca or Nordiol
Superdrol + 1-Test or Fina + Test
Superdrol + 1,4ADD/EQ or 19Nor/Deca or M4OHN



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[pumpd4lif]

u swayed me

[Jay_notellin]

This cat is prob. tired of hearing he's too young, and no one here is his mommy. Sooo If you got your mind made up, make sure u do it right catalyst.. Get your supporting supps ready, and get your facts straight and plan a good pct. In my opinion Nolva should be run for PCT.

I agree......if he order it, he is going to take it.....make sure you got some liver protection (millk thistle)....junk that OTC PCT and get some nolva.

[D_C]

Question on PCT....Why not just ReboundXT? I just started a cycle. I have ReboundXT on the way. I have a buddy that finished a cycle and just used ReboundXT and it seemed to work fine. According to the article I just read here about Superdrol...do I really need the Hawthorne & Niacin? I am taking Milk Thistle at 1000mg per day. I'm a little confused at the different posts here. Let me know.??????

[D-Bo Dre]

Question on PCT....Why not just ReboundXT? I just started a cycle. I have ReboundXT on the way. I have a buddy that finished a cycle and just used ReboundXT and it seemed to work fine. According to the article I just read here about Superdrol...do I really need the Hawthorne & Niacin? I am taking Milk Thistle at 1000mg per day. I'm a little confused at the different posts here. Let me know.??????

Well if you have the Rebound already then take it.. IMO Nolva is just a better all around product used for PCT that's all..And YES, take the other supporting supps. Although superdrol is harsh on the liver, milk thistle alone will not protect you 100%. Since superdrol is a steroid -Niacin (to lower blood cholestorol levels), Hawthorn berry (for blood pressure), red yeast rice (for cholesterol), milk thistle (liver protection) are all very important. I ran all these supps and had little/no sides.. I am ending my 3rd week of pct (nolva) and have kept all my gains thus far. I will be taking blood work in a week and will post my results.. Do it right homie, no short cuts..

[D-Bo Dre]

And to catalyst, have you tried any other "legal" supps already (creatine, NoExplode, etc.) ??? You have years and years ahead of you for getting big.. No need to start with a roid first @ 18.. IMO do it Natty for a year, gain 10-15lbs, train hard, then jump on it.. But like I said before, if u absolutly wanna do it, do it then.. but right.. good luck bro..

[CatalysT]

yeah D-Bo i have taken liquid creatine for 5 months (no real results just faster recovery) and i am currently taking weight gain 2200 and Kre-Alkyn 1500 its a patented form of creatine.

[CatalysT]

yeah i have rebound XT and Inhibit-E for my pct i will also be running 1000mg of milk thistle ed.