Looking for a solid Vegetarian Diet...

[scerpico22]

My girlfriend is vegetarian and is working her a** off every week and has reached a platue. she is really trying to lean up and is having a tough time because a veggie diet is sooooo high in carb intake...

she weight trains 4 - 5 times per week with 3-4 days of cardio 30 - 45 minutes a session.

she is:
5'7"
125 lbs
18% BF

any good diet adivice out there for a veg head???

[1buffsob]

1st would be eat meat

Seriously though, replace a couple meals with pro/fat. So something like whey/1oz almonds for a veg head Make sure she gets healthy fats as well. Does she at least eat fish?

1buffsob

[scerpico22]

1st would be eat meat

Seriously though, replace a couple meals with pro/fat. So something like whey/1oz almonds for a veg head Make sure she gets healthy fats as well. Does she at least eat fish?

1buffsob

no man, nothing with a face or muscle...religous belief...trust me, ive tried to get her to taste a delicious steak...but no dice - this is whats making the protien such a task.

most of her protein now comes from shakes and cottage cheese, i finally got her to eat eggs because at first that was a no, no too

[musubi]

Egg whites, tofu and legumes (beans, peanuts) are the best sources of protein in a vegetarian diet. Cottage cheese is great too but has a lot of sodium.

[dbstyles]

When I was a bark eaten Vegan, I ate a lot of different types of soy, wheat, and veggie sources to get my protein. It is pretty tough because one has to eat so many types of veg sources to get all the aminos and many of the processed veg foods are very carb loaded. Plus I felt a lot of stomach discomfort eating so much soy based foods all the time. Look at the cutting sticky and see if you can figure something out based on the macro ratios and her stats. Hope she cooks cause it will take some meal planning.

[1buffsob]

Eggs, shakes, and cc can work. It's not optimal by no means, but just replacing some meals with pro/fat should definately help along with increased cardio. 4-5 times a week 45-60 mins.

1buffsob

[scerpico22]

thanks...keep it comin...im gonna check out the sticky and post a plan for her in a few days.

[Giants11]

Cottage Cheese, Eggs, milk and Whey should be just about enough. That plenty of protein there, also Soy.

[Giants11]

Egg whites, tofu and legumes (beans, peanuts) are the best sources of protein in a vegetarian diet. Cottage cheese is great too but has a lot of sodium.

Water intake will help this. Or you can buy the low sodium variety.

[crash187ct]

can i ask why you are a veg?

[scerpico22]

can i ask why you are a veg?

its not me its my girlfriend and its religous belief - me...i hunt!

[scerpico22]

any place for veggie patties in a healthy diet

1 pattie
cal 170
pro 17
carb 4
fat 9
sod 360

not too bad looking to me, maybe include pro/fat meal, with some 2% cheese possibly?

[SwoleCat]

I always equate being a vegetarian and wanting to lose fat and gain lean mass easily as one wanting to be a doctor, but not wanting to go to medical school.

For some situations, certain criteria are neccessary.

~SC~

[Myka]

What religion is she? Just curious

might try these guys

www.veganbodybuilding.com

[ascendant]

its not me its my girlfriend and its religous belief - me...i hunt!

well, you might want to inform her that her religious beliefs conflict with her physical body and ask her why her "god" put her into a body that's supposed to consume meat, then her "god" tells her she can't?! the human body is an omnivore, meaning in order to maintain a healthy diet, we need BOTH meats and veggies. this is not opinion, it's fact. the proof confirming this is not only our bodies physiology, but the reduced lifespan of vegetarians, indicating the deficiencies from lack of meats are having a negative impact on their health. there is just certain macro and micro nutrients that our bodies require which you can't get in a vegetarian diet.

my favorite thing to open peoples minds to new possibilities is ask her what makes her think her religion is right compared to all the rest out there? also, ask her what kind of god she believes in that makes a small handful of people right and all the rest damned to hell because of where they were born and the beliefs they were born into? personally, that's a pretty sick and twisted god in my opinion. there's a little more to it than that...

not trying to preach to you buddy and if she's beyond hope as far as the religious thing by all means don't take my advice as it will surely turn into a nasty argument. however, for her health (and hopefully enlightenment as well) i'd strongly advise getting her out of this concept she's doing purely for religious reasons. moral reasons are one thing (even though for health concerns i'm still against it), but religious reasons for being a vegetarian i just find a little ridiculous. try to help her out man.

[scerpico22]

What religion is she? Just curious

might try these guys

www.veganbodybuilding.com

im checking out the website...thanks!

[scerpico22]

well, you might want to inform her that her religious beliefs conflict with her physical body and ask her why her "god" put her into a body that's supposed to consume meat, then her "god" tells her she can't?! the human body is an omnivore, meaning in order to maintain a healthy diet, we need BOTH meats and veggies. this is not opinion, it's fact. the proof confirming this is not only our bodies physiology, but the reduced lifespan of vegetarians, indicating the deficiencies from lack of meats are having a negative impact on their health. there is just certain macro and micro nutrients that our bodies require which you can't get in a vegetarian diet.

my favorite thing to open peoples minds to new possibilities is ask her what makes her think her religion is right compared to all the rest out there? also, ask her what kind of god she believes in that makes a small handful of people right and all the rest damned to hell because of where they were born and the beliefs they were born into? personally, that's a pretty sick and twisted god in my opinion. there's a little more to it than that...

not trying to preach to you buddy and if she's beyond hope as far as the religious thing by all means don't take my advice as it will surely turn into a nasty argument. however, for her health (and hopefully enlightenment as well) i'd strongly advise getting her out of this concept she's doing purely for religious reasons. moral reasons are one thing (even though for health concerns i'm still against it), but religious reasons for being a vegetarian i just find a little ridiculous. try to help her out man.

as for me being a meat eater i see where your coming from but you would really have to hear the story as to what made her family (before she was even born) turn from meat eaters which they were to vegatarians...its amazing...a bit personal for me to go into to detail, but trust me when i tell you that, that type of experience would make anyone with a sould change also...

that being said...

in her defense i may have miss represented her beliefs...they are really more towards the moral reasons and a way of life...reincarnation and that sort of thing.

bottom line ive worked out a pretty decent diet (i think) ill post it tomorrow and ill be looking for some more feedback.

so at this point it is a forgone coclusion that she will not eat meat but its working her ass off to stay fit continue to see results...isnt that what we are all here for?

so anymore positive input is more than welcomed.

[scerpico22]

What religion is she? Just curious

might try these guys

www.veganbodybuilding.com

not actually a religion...more like she, her family believes in reincarnation

[scerpico22]

here is the veg diet i came up with, let me know what you guys think - her main goal is to lean up so im wondering...is 1500cal too many and are the carbs too high at 124g for her in the day?

i took the cutting sticky above and tried to alter it to her day and veg diet...

again her stats are:

25yo
5'6"
125lbs
18%bf

cal / pro / carb / fat

Meal 1 - procarb - 8:00am
Egg Beaters 30 6 0 1
Egg Beaters 30 6 0 1
Egg Beaters 30 6 0 1
Egg White 17 4 0 0
Multi Grain Wheat Bread 60 4 10 1
Oatmeal 100 4 19 2
267 30 29 6

WORKOUT 10am

Meal 2 - PWO - 12:00pm
Scoop of Protien 110 23 3 2
Dextrose 150 0 40 0
260 23 43 2

Meal 3 - profat - 3:00pm
Grillers Original 130 15 6 5
Almonds 85 4 3 8
Cheddar Chesse 2% 50 4 1 3
Cheddar Chesse 2% 50 4 1 3
315 27 11 19

Meal 4 - procarb - 6:00pm
Grillers Original 130 15 6 5
Spinach 10 1 2 0
Egg Beaters 30 6 0 1
Egg Beaters 30 6 0 1
Egg Beaters 30 6 0 1
Brown Rice 60 2 16 1
290 36 24 9

Meal 5 - procarb - 9:00pm
Broccoli 55 4 11 1
Scoop of Protien 110 23 3 2
165 27 14 3

Meal 6 - profat - 12:00pm
Cottage Cheese 142 22 0 3
Peanut Butter 80 4 4 9
222 25 4 12

TOTAL FOR DAY 1519 167 124 50

[1buffsob]

Looks pretty good. But I would add 10g of flax in meal 5, since it's not a pro/carb meal as the carbs in broccoli are negligible Also, natty pb in meal 6?

1buffsob

[scerpico22]

Looks pretty good. But I would add 10g of flax in meal 5, since it's not a pro/carb meal as the carbs in broccoli are negligible Also, natty pb in meal 6?

1buffsob

so add the flax to meal 5?

nix the natty pb 5 (just go with the cott chesse)?

ather than that you think the macros are all in order?

[1buffsob]

Macros look good. I'd still keep the PB in meal 6, just wanted to make sure it was natty pb I'd add 5 flax caps meal 5 though, as whey is absorbed to quickly without fat. That's all I would modify for now and see how she responds to the diet. I think she will do really well if she keeps up the cardio/training up.

1buffsob

[solid snake]

well, you might want to inform her that her religious beliefs conflict with her physical body and ask her why her "god" put her into a body that's supposed to consume meat, then her "god" tells her she can't?! the human body is an omnivore, meaning in order to maintain a healthy diet, we need BOTH meats and veggies. this is not opinion, it's fact. the proof confirming this is not only our bodies physiology, but the reduced lifespan of vegetarians, indicating the deficiencies from lack of meats are having a negative impact on their health. there is just certain macro and micro nutrients that our bodies require which you can't get in a vegetarian diet.

my favorite thing to open peoples minds to new possibilities is ask her what makes her think her religion is right compared to all the rest out there? also, ask her what kind of god she believes in that makes a small handful of people right and all the rest damned to hell because of where they were born and the beliefs they were born into? personally, that's a pretty sick and twisted god in my opinion. there's a little more to it than that...

not trying to preach to you buddy and if she's beyond hope as far as the religious thing by all means don't take my advice as it will surely turn into a nasty argument. however, for her health (and hopefully enlightenment as well) i'd strongly advise getting her out of this concept she's doing purely for religious reasons. moral reasons are one thing (even though for health concerns i'm still against it), but religious reasons for being a vegetarian i just find a little ridiculous. try to help her out man.

hey bro I'm sure that when you wrote this you didn't mean any harm or offence to anyone however i was slightly offended with some of the topics you covered and how you pretty much made it sound like religion should have no impact on AL lives in terms of what we eat and to a certain extent you made religion sound like it was of no importants thats how i saw it anyway maybe im just being a little sensitive thats all.

i just want to say that you should be carefull when opening the topic of religion as it can offend some people

especially just after easter everyone who is Christan will be a little more sensitive then normal.

and sory for a short hijack of the thread i know it has nothing to do with a vegaterian diet.

[scerpico22]

Macros look good. I'd still keep the PB in meal 6, just wanted to make sure it was natty pb I'd add 5 flax caps meal 5 though, as whey is absorbed to quickly without fat. That's all I would modify for now and see how she responds to the diet. I think she will do really well if she keeps up the cardio/training up.

1buffsob

yea i meant to keep the pb in 6, that was a typo (yes it is natty)

ill add the flax to 5...and thanks for the 411 on the broc carbs...that one slipped by me.

thanks for the help on both mine and her diets (you helped with mine earlier in the week)

i start my cycle on monday and she is barring down the hatches on monday...so il llook into posting some progress pics.

thanks you SOB...

[scerpico22]

hey bro I'm sure that when you wrote this you didn't mean any harm or offence to anyone however i was slightly offended with some of the topics you covered and how you pretty much made it sound like religion should have no impact on AL lives in terms of what we eat and to a certain extent you made religion sound like it was of no importants thats how i saw it anyway maybe im just being a little sensitive thats all.

i just want to say that you should be carefull when opening the topic of religion as it can offend some people

especially just after easter everyone who is Christan will be a little more sensitive then normal.

and sory for a short hijack of the thread i know it has nothing to do with a vegaterian diet.

tru that word!

yo solid bumped into your thread today...good luck bro!

stick with it...

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us"

[1buffsob]

yea i meant to keep the pb in 6, that was a typo (yes it is natty)

ill add the flax to 5...and thanks for the 411 on the broc carbs...that one slipped by me.

thanks for the help on both mine and her diets (you helped with mine earlier in the week)

i start my cycle on monday and she is barring down the hatches on monday...so il llook into posting some progress pics.

thanks you SOB...

That's what I'm here for bro.

Best of luck to both of you. Oh, and we want pics of the progress. I guess you could post your pics too.

1buffsob

[solid snake]

tru that word!

yo solid bumped into your thread today...good luck bro!

stick with it...

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us"

thanks for the support bro

take care and see il you around

[scerpico22]

That's what I'm here for bro.

Best of luck to both of you. Oh, and we want pics of the progress. I guess you could post your pics too.

1buffsob

yea...i knew that was comin...

[1buffsob]

Can't blame a bro for trying Seriously though, keep us updated. And don't hesitate to ask any questions.

1buffsob

[crash187ct]

if God didn't want us to eat meat, he wouldn't have invented A-1 steak sauce, and the george foreman grill.

[Myka]

if God didn't want us to eat meat, he wouldn't have invented A-1 steak sauce, and the george foreman grill.

...and women

[scerpico22]

even my beautiful vegetarian women enjoys a nice side of cuban suasgae every now and again....more often than not i might add

[1buffsob]

Kinky

1buffsob