Cutting/Strength (Tren E.) cycle with fewest injections?

[MuscleGuy45]

Can you advise on a Cutting/Strength stack with the *fewest injections? Would like to only inject twice a week if possible.

If can gain strength (hence Anavar Tren E.) and lose some BF that would be super!

Winstrol not listed as believe not good if joints not too good.

Thinking of something along the lines of:
wks 3-13 300-500mg Tren Enth pr wk
wks 3-13 400mg Primo pr wk *
wks 3-13 40mg Anavar pr day
wks 3-14 50mg Proviron pr day
wks 1- 14 400mg B6 (Prog. Gyno precaution, instead of Broc.)

Elbow repair:
Adequan (preferred, if can get hold of it to the UK...), else Aflutop ED...
Believe injured during 6 plate weighted bench tricep dips 8 years ago....

Stats:
Age : 32
Weight: 114 kg
Height: 6ft
BF: 26%
Frame: Meso-Endomorph
Blood Results: Slightly fatty liver (now taking Liv 52), other blood work fine.

Cycles:
1 recent - 666 Test En., 500 Equipose Bolderone, 2.5mg Fermara EOD, 10mg Nolvadex
4 over 6 years ago not worth talking about....

Diet: Clean :

Meal Time Food Amount Unit Grams g Protein g Carbohydrates g Fat Total Lipids g Calories kcal
Meal 1 08:00 milk, fluid, skim 320 ml 331.36 11.296 16.064 0.608 115.976
Meal 1 08:00 cereals, quaker, quick oats, dry 45 grams 45 6.165 30.681 3.092 166.95
Meal 1 08:00 whey protein concentrate 80 (nz) 50 gram 50 40.333 2.167 3.667 205
Meal 1 08:00 coffee, instant, regular, powder 1.5 heaping teaspoon 2.7 0.33 1.11 0.015 6.507
Meal 2 10:00 cheese, cottage, lowfat, 2% milkfat 125 grams 125 17.175 4.537 2.413 112.5
Meal 2 10:00 oat cakes 100 gram 6 34 3.5 191
Meal 3 12:00 soy sau made from soy (tamari) 4 tbsp 72 7.56 4 0.08 43.2
Meal 3 12:00 rice, brown, long-grain, raw 80 grams 80 6.352 61.792 2.336 296
Meal 3 12:00 chicken breast ( oven roasted,fat free ) 150 grams 150 27.45 2.55 0.9 127.5
Meal 4 14:00 oat cakes 100 gram 6 34 3.5 191
Meal 4 14:00 tuna, lt, cnd in h2o, wo/salt, drnd sol 100 grams 100 25.51 0 0.82 116
Meal 5 16:00 chicken breast ( oven roasted,fat free ) 150 grams 150 27.45 2.55 0.9 127.5
Meal 5 16:00 broccoli, ckd, bld, drnd, w/salt 100 grams 100 2.98 5.06 0.35 28
Meal 6 18:00 cheese, cottage, lowfat, 2% milkfat 125 grams 125 17.18 4.54 2.41 112.5
Meal 7 20:00 bread, pita, whole-wheat 1 pita, large (6-1/2" dia) 64 6.27 35.2 1.66 170.24
Meal 7 20:00 chicken breast ( oven roasted,fat free ) 150 grams 150 27.45 2.55 0.9 127.5
Meal 8 22:00 milk, fluid, skim 400 ml 414.2 14.12 20.08 0.76 144.97
Meal 8 22:00 whey protein concentrate 80 (nz) 50 gram 50 40.33 2.17 3.67 205

TOTALS Protein 290, Carbs 263, Fat 32, Calories 2487


Exercise: Weights 4 times a week every other day
Fat Burn 4 times a week for 45 - 60 minnutes , BPM 140.

Questions:
1. Cycle OK?
2. To reduce costs what could be used instead of Primo?
3. Would it be OK to do 1ml Decca each week/other week for elbows? May aid Gyno as Tren in cycle. Want to use Tren E though!
4. As using Tren, should some Test be added?

Any other advice gladly taken!!!!

[Hellmaskbanned]

With 26% bodyfat, doing a cutting cycle won't be very beneficial if when your finished you still have fat covering your muscle. I would get down to 15% BF before I did a cutter.

[BajanBastard]

With 26% bodyfat, doing a cutting cycle won't be very beneficial if when your finished you still have fat covering your muscle. I would get down to 15% BF before I did a cutter.

Why do you think it's called a 'cutting' cycle?

Welcome MG45.

I would use strong androgens to aid in the fat loss process.

Testosterone enanthate
Trenbolone enanthate (if you have exp with tren)
An aromatize inhibitor to lower estrogen levels and block estrogen and progesterone receptors this will aid in fat loss.
A low dose of T3 (thyroid hormore) to optimize metabolic rate and control prolactin levels from the tren.

And of course a diet and cardio regimen to suite your goals.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Why do you think it's called a 'cutting' cycle?

Welcome MG45.

I would use strong androgens to aid in the fat loss process.

Testosterone enanthate
Trenbolone enanthate (if you have exp with tren)
An aromatize inhibitor to lower estrogen levels and block estrogen and progesterone receptors this will aid in fat loss.
A low dose of T3 (thyroid hormore) to optimize metabolic rate and control prolactin levels from the tren.

And of course a diet and cardio regimen to suite your goals.

Well obviously if you have 26% bodyfat your not in the physical condition to be cycleing. Seems pretty self explianatory.

[BajanBastard]

Well obviously if you have 26% bodyfat your not in the physical condition to be cycleing. Seems pretty self explianatory.

Says who? Care to explain why he can't.

He's not cycling for muscle gains, he's employing androgens to burn fat and help hold onto muscle during cardio and a restricted calorie diet. Do you think top level competitors who bulk up in the off season wait until they are at 15% BF to start a cutting cycle before a show?

[Hellmaskbanned]

Says who? Care to explain why he can't.

He's not cycling for muscle gains, he's employing androgens to burn fat and help hold onto muscle during cardio and a restricted calorie diet. Do you think top level competitors who bulk up in the off season wait until they are at 15% BF to start a cutting cycle before a show?

Is he a pro?........

If your dedicated to weightlifting and overall fitness , you should be in better shape before you turn to aas. The body is capable of gaining muscle or burning fat on it's own. HARD WORK.

[Hellmaskbanned]

And further more,

I don't care if you use aas or not muscleguy , it's your health and your life.
I just wouldn't with your listed perdicametn

[MuscleGuy45]

Bumping for reponse to further questions.

[guns626]

I hope you bro's know I was joking! You guys both made excellent points.

[MuscleGuy45]

As a novice still not sure about the amount of Tren. En. Also not sure what could swap for the Primo to save costs. The course is around $1,400 so far.

Would be nice to do Tren. E. for the dreams, extra strength and for some cutting.

Lastly in Anabolic Steroids I am a little confused as its sort of says Testerone should be stacked with Tren. Witht he cycle above, the agreedients mentioned do you think any more testerone is needed?

[BajanBastard]

As a novice still not sure about the amount of Tren. En. Also not sure what could swap for the Primo to save costs. The course is around $1,400 so far.

Would be nice to do Tren. E. for the dreams, extra strength and for some cutting.

Lastly in Anabolic Steroids I am a little confused as its sort of says Testerone should be stacked with Tren. Witht he cycle above, the agreedients mentioned do you think any more testerone is needed?

Honestly you need to do much more research on cutting AAS and cutting in general. What's your exact cycle history?

[PurplePatriot]

hey big klg

if its ok for someone at 26% body fat to be cycling is it ok for someone thats 5'10 120lbs to be cycling too?

Both are equally as logical.

[BajanBastard]

hey big klg

if its ok for someone at 26% body fat to be cycling is it ok for someone thats 5'10 120lbs to be cycling too?

Both are equally as logical.

I see where you're coming from.

Ok then, let's say the guy is 5'10 @ 120 lbs (that friggin' bad tho), if he started training 3 weeks ago and eats popcorn as him main protein source then no, i absolutely would not advise him to use AAS. We all know that the gains (if any) would not be permanent and would be quickly lost due to poor diet and lack of training experience.

Now using the same person but under different circumstances, the guy has been training for 3-5 yrs, started out 5'11 @ 99lbs, now he's 120lbs. The weight gain shows he knows how to eat and his training seems solid. But now he's stuck and the extra kcals are not doing anything. In this case AAS use to give things a little push is not out of the question.

This is all just my opinion of course and not a very popular line of thinking.

[fred9]

you can easily go to 15-18% without the use of roids and still maintaining ur mass....

[MuscleGuy45]

I give up...