can you help me out

[cb1981]

I'm going to start a cycle of winstrope pills. How many times a week should i do it and how many weeks should i stay on? I also wanted to start cyponate every 3rd day. Will that be ok togerther.

[C_Bino]

Yes it will be ok together. But I would suggest that the next time you want to cycle you run it by us first before deciding on your own on what you are going to take and then asking us.
I mean let me ask you. What made you decide to take winny as you obviously dont know much about it?

[shadyadam]

I'm going to start a cycle of winstrope pills. How many times a week should i do it and how many weeks should i stay on? I also wanted to start cyponate every 3rd day. Will that be ok togerther.

Post some stats man! Whats your goals? And is that Test cyp? Do you have a PCT lined up?

[cb1981]

Yes it is test cyp. I want to get real big real fast. I just dont want to look smooth. I thaught i could get bigger and strong with the cyp and keep the water off me with the winstrope. I do not have a PCT linned up. I am 5'10" 210 lbs.

[longhorn814]

before you take anything you need to research more. PCT is the most important part of taking steroids if you want to do it safely and keep your gains. There is a whole forum dedicated to it. Whats your diet like? Youre not gonna get big unless you know how to eat, even with steroids! Read a lot more before you do anything and its winstrol, not winstrope

[shadyadam]

before you take anything you need to research more. PCT is the most important part of taking steroids if you want to do it safely and keep your gains. There is a whole forum dedicated to it. Whats your diet like? Youre not gonna get big unless you know how to eat, even with steroids! Read a lot more before you do anything and its winstrol, not winstrope

Could'nt have said it better myself!

[Booz]

you are new to the game mate...do yourself a favour and research 1st cycles on here.....you will learn an awfull lot...then come back and post up a cycle for us to critique.....
you have started on the right track..........

[Liftnainez]

Yes it is test cyp. I want to get real big real fast. I just dont want to look smooth. I thaught i could get bigger and strong with the cyp and keep the water off me with the winstrope. I do not have a PCT linned up. I am 5'10" 210 lbs.

That is the biggest misconception about steroids. Take a shot and you get huge.. It takes much more dedication and hard work to get big and stay big. By your posts you defintley should be reading up more before you put something you really know nothing about in your body.. dont mean to sound harsh- its for your own good..

[cb1981]

Thanks for the spell check. I believe my diet is fine i'm eating 4-5 small meals a day (high protein low fat) with 2-4 protein shakes daily. I'll get a PCT when i'm done with my cycle. Can anyone answer my first question. How many times a week should i use the winstrol.

[shadyadam]

Thanks for the spell check. I believe my diet is fine i'm eating 4-5 small meals a day (high protein low fat) with 2-4 protein shakes daily. I'll get a PCT when i'm done with my cycle. Can anyone answer my first question. How many times a week should i use the winstrol.

Like talking to a fu(king WALL.

[Booz]

Thanks for the spell check. I believe my diet is fine i'm eating 4-5 small meals a day (high protein low fat) with 2-4 protein shakes daily. I'll get a PCT when i'm done with my cycle. Can anyone answer my first question. How many times a week should i use the winstrol.

you should seriously sort your pct out before you start this cycle of yours mate....what happens if somethin unexpected occurrs during the cycle and you have to come off...you have no pct at the ready..............
do you know what pct is??
this is not a flame just asking you a question............

[cb1981]

Its so i dont lose my gains.

[Booz]

Its so i dont lose my gains.

yes that is partly correct...pct will help you to recovver your natural testosterone which in turn with a good diet and training regime help you to keep a good percentage of your gains...............it is a must to have ready before you start just in case something goes awry with the cycle...........

[C_Bino]

Its so i dont lose my gains.

Ya but do you have any idea of what it consists of? What compounds you are going to take for PCT, how long you are goin to run them etc?

[cb1981]

Booz
I will get that all lined up before i start my cycle. Thanks for some of the info. Im obviously a newbie, thats why i have questions. It seems like everytime i have a question people spend more time telling me how stupid i am then helping me out. So thanks for trying to explain things to me. After i get my PCT linned up how many times a week should i use the winstrol.

[C_Bino]

People arent telling you how stupid you are. But when you come with questions like this its obvious you are too new to the game to be cycling. You go and decide to use winstrol...I ask you why? Why woul you choose this compound if you know nothing about it? That is why people question you, its for your own benefit.

BTW I dont think you should use winstrol at all if this is your first cycle.

[cb1981]

Why?

[novicenovicen]

The PCT forum is a great start for research. Then post your full cycle,PCT, and full stats. Too many people are willing to help. And to many people don't listen.....then wonder why they have titties!

[Booz]

people here along with me like to see some of the newer members helping themselves 1st off by doing some of their own research...this shows that you are interested in what you are putting into yourself and want to do things properly...the way you started the thread off was not the best way to start out................
now 1st thing how old are you and how long have you been training?

[C_Bino]

Boozie booz is a sweetheart, he will take care of you.

[cb1981]

25 years old
training 3yrs steady

[novicenovicen]

C-Bino is my idol i love him nearly as much as i do Booz........................................

[Booz]

1st cycle yes?

[shadyadam]

Look man sorry if i seemed a little harsh but lets be honest, you gave me an answer "I'll get a PCT when i'm done with my cycle". That just tells me you havent really done much reading into how important PCT is. In fact thats the first thing IMO you should know how to do right off the bat. And secondly your only pushing to know "how many times a week should i use the winstrol". Were trying to tell you otherwise, but your not reading what were saying. IMO your first cycle should be a test base only.

[cb1981]

yes this is my first cycle.

[Booz]

Look man sorry if i seemed a little harsh but lets be honest, you gave me an answer "I'll get a PCT when i'm done with my cycle". That just tells me you havent really done much reading into how important PCT is. In fact thats the first thing IMO you should know how to do right off the bat. And secondly your only pushing to know "how many times a week should i use the winstrol". Were trying to tell you otherwise, but your not reading what were saying. IMO your first cycle should be a test base only.

right then i will leave the rest to you guys...............................

[longhorn814]

first cycle, when you have enough knowledge should be something like this

1-12 400-500mg/wk of test e or test cyp
14-18 PCT

Always keep some type of anti estrogen on hand in case of bloat or gyno should appear

You also said that you eat 4-5 small meals a day, to me that sounds like youre not eating enough to gain weight. You need to be eating at least 3500 calories a day IMO if you want to bulk. Start tracking your calories daily and see how many come from protein, carbs, and fat. yeah its a pain in the butt, but if you wanna do it correctly its something you need to do..a least for a little while to get an understanding of your diet.

Also, winny is NOT really a bulking steroid, it is more often used for cutting too, which is the opposite of your goals