Long (15+ week) Cycles & Effectiveness?

[vein-x]

The more I read 'Chemical Wizardy' and 'Building the Perfect Beast' I get the impression that the longer the cycle the more damage you're doing to yourself and the fewer LBM pounds you're building. Come next winter I want to run a HEAVY bulking cycle and have it planned out to roughly 15 weeks. I've got loads of HCG and Clomid on order to restart everything after a harsh cycle, so that's not the case...

Could anyone who's ever run a longer cycle fill me in? I'm running both Deca & EQ (and Test, don't worry) and on almost ANY profile I've ever read it says that the true effects of both don't even come out until about week 10 (12 in EQ's case) so a 12 week cycle would barely feel the effects of EQ. Just looking for a little insight on longer cycles. Thanks for any advice at all.

[Logan13]

The more I read 'Chemical Wizardy' and 'Building the Perfect Beast' I get the impression that the longer the cycle the more damage you're doing to yourself and the fewer LBM pounds you're building. Come next winter I want to run a HEAVY bulking cycle and have it planned out to roughly 15 weeks. I've got loads of HCG and Clomid on order to restart everything after a harsh cycle, so that's not the case...

Could anyone who's ever run a longer cycle fill me in? I'm running both Deca & EQ (and Test, don't worry) and on almost ANY profile I've ever read it says that the true effects of both don't even come out until about week 10 (12 in EQ's case) so a 12 week cycle would barely feel the effects of EQ. Just looking for a little insight on longer cycles. Thanks for any advice at all.

I think that longer cycles are much more common then they used to be with products like HCG today. I always go longer than 15 weeks. And if you are using EQ, I would go 14-15 weeks without any worries. I must admit though, I have never included deca in a longer cycle, just too hard to come back in pct. Proper PCT and HCG use during cycle will determine your net gains from a long cycle.