IMO ephedrine is just as good if not better at burning fat, but does it block cortisol as well as clen? Like, could it be usd in PCT instead of clen? Does anybody even use clen with PCT anymore or is that oldschool?
IMO ephedrine is just as good if not better at burning fat, but does it block cortisol as well as clen? Like, could it be usd in PCT instead of clen? Does anybody even use clen with PCT anymore or is that oldschool?
Check out the profile for Clen. I just read it and it compares it with Ephedrine. That might help you decide. It seemed to me that Clen had some advantages over ephedrine, but you could look at it in different ways I guess. All depends what sides you are willing to accept I guess. Hope this helps!!Originally Posted by AnabolicBoy1981
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199822
yeah i read that a bunch of times.
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Sorry but i really Dont think so bros
Albuterol has a shorter half life and is the closest thing to Clen, but because the half life of Albut is like 4-6 hours i think and because of that its believed to not share the same anti-catabolic properties...
So i'm assuming cause Ephedrine has a short half it wont either
I really don't think that ephedrine's gonna replace Clen but at a good dose though, you can have pretty damn good results w/o the Clen sides and heartbeat trouble......for prone ppl. atleast!
but regarding ester, that's true it won't match Clen's one...![]()
Originally Posted by Jakspro
that logic is false.. just because a compound has a short half-life doesnt necessarily mean its not anti-catabolic or whatever. Then u cant compare Ephedrine and clen because their mechanism of action is completely different. I do think that ephedrine is not as anti-catabolic but I dont know this for sure. Clen has affects the muscle cell structure causing (permament?) rearrangement... to get a better explanation I would have to go check it in the library.. But in the pharmacology book there it was explained how clenbuterol effects the muscles and at least it was not mentioned that it applies to all other b2 agonists.
Originally Posted by Testostack
ester???? there is no ester in ephe of clen...
what i meant is that half life won't be the same then Clen will be more effective...didn't make myself clear![]()
i was wondering the same...
Yes to answer all of you. An ECA stack can also be effective. The problem is ephedrine is short lived and you body builds up tolerance to ephedrine very quickly. But Yes Ephedrine has anticatabolic properties..
Damn i didn't think about it!! ECA is what i'm on right now during cardio days, really effective!!![]()
haha funny...Damn i didn't think about it!! ECA is what i'm on right now during cardio days, really effective!!
firstly i would like to say ephedra has NO anticatabolic effects and clens anticatabolic effects are so minimal i never noticed them.
your body adapts to eca at the same rate as that of clen.. approx 2-4 weeksOriginally Posted by novicenovicen
Tai, from the profiles read on ephedra it states it has anticatabolic properties. P3erhaps I have read them wrong, or they are so minimal most people haven't noticed.
I believe Ephedra is also quicker tolerance, and benadryl helps with the clen. Does it also help benedryl?
yes benedryl kan help w/ ephedra..it helps anything that is based on beta-2R by rephosphilation of the recepts.Originally Posted by novicenovicen
but this IDEA of refreshing has been tottally blown outta proportion.
true I believe to refresh you would have to come off the one substance then refresh at high mg of benedryl for a week then start clen again.
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