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    Friends giving me wrong info - I'm confused!

    Hey guys,

    I'm brand new to this forum for a very good reason when I started doing research I found that the info on this website doesn't line up to what my friends say....

    I've never done a full on steroid cycle, only off the shelf stuff (Superdrol, M1A, Halodrol, M1P....) and I want to try something that will give me some real gains.

    MY FRIENDS SAID I should do: 4 weeks Deca, 2 week break, then 6 weeks winstrol - Doing Nolvadex the entire cycle.

    On here I see stuff about taking Test while doing Deca, and not even doing Deca for the first cycle. I like my friends and all, but I dont want to screw myself up bad by following bad advice:

    Do you think I should do Test along with Deca or what, opinions please?

    Thanks,
    Brian

    22years, 190lbs, 5'11" ??% body-fat

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    500mg test only, at 10-12 weeks, is the typical beginner cycle. All you really need. As for your friends, no offense, but they're idiots. Read up on PCT (Post cycle therapy) as well, to bring your natural testosterone production up and keep your gains.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briancb1
    Hey guys,

    I'm brand new to this forum for a very good reason when I started doing research I found that the info on this website doesn't line up to what my friends say....

    I've never done a full on steroid cycle, only off the shelf stuff (Superdrol, M1A, Halodrol, M1P....) and I want to try something that will give me some real gains.

    MY FRIENDS SAID I should do: 4 weeks Deca, 2 week break, then 6 weeks winstrol - Doing Nolvadex the entire cycle.

    On here I see stuff about taking Test while doing Deca, and not even doing Deca for the first cycle. I like my friends and all, but I dont want to screw myself up bad by following bad advice:

    Do you think I should do Test along with Deca or what, opinions please?

    Thanks,
    Brian

    22years, 190lbs, 5'11" ??% body-fat
    Yes, you should always run test, especially with deca as it is very suppressive (search: deca dick). I'm sure your friends meant well, but they are idiots. Deca and winny are both very suppressive and, if you like sex, are a bad choice. Also, deca won't even kick in until week 5 or so, so 4 weeks would be totally worthless.
    Last edited by fanatic; 05-02-2006 at 01:21 PM.

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    First off - Thanks for the quick responce (are you sure you guys arn't being paid?)

    Secondly - I'll tell my friends I'm just going to do:
    Test 500mg for 10-12 weeks

    Sounds good?

    Thanks again,
    Brian

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    glad to hear someone actually went and did some research before doing what thier friends said... smart move buddy!! you'll get all the answers you need here by experienced people

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    I forgot to ask:

    What type of Test shoulda I start out on for my first cycle, opinions or preferences?

    Thanks,
    Brian

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    I ran test cyp my first run and went from 197 to 233lbs and 4 months post cycle am sitting at 212...15 lb gain. If I were to start now having not done a cyle I would run test prop and shoot everyday & hit around 400-600mg a week. I felt like the cyp maybe made me hold too much water and I prefer a more solid look-diet is 85% of it though. Just my 2c's...I haven't been around that long though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briancb1
    I forgot to ask:

    What type of Test shoulda I start out on for my first cycle, opinions or preferences?

    Thanks,
    Brian
    I ran test cyp 500mg/wk for 12 weeks my first cycle. I hope you have PCT lined up as well & dont forget your anti-e's. I'm glad to hear that you came on here for advice, this IS the place to be. As for your friends, they need to learn more about AS.

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    either test cyponate or enanthate...... and yes your friends are idiots. for the love of god never listen to them again!!!!

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    My first cycle was Test Enanthate @ 500mg/week, I split it up into two shots of 250mg a week.. So I would take a shot on Monday (250mg) than another shot on thursday (250mg).

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    thank god for friends...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    500mg test only, at 10-12 weeks, is the typical beginner cycle. All you really need. As for your friends, no offense, but they're idiots. Read up on PCT (Post cycle therapy) as well, to bring your natural testosterone production up and keep your gains.

    Good luck.

    1buffsob
    Nuff said......i think you sum it up quite well....

    Test e is a good start and as a second cycle you could go for Test e and Tbol for instance.....PCT forum might too

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    Awesome help guys, best forum yet!

    I cancled my Deca/Winny order, he was kinda pissed but cool with it. Now I've got 12 weeks of Test E/500mgs comming and I ordered 15 weeks of Nolvadex to run with it the entire time + 3 week PCT.

    Thanks for your guys help,
    Brian

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    You bet!
    That's waht we're here for, right?!
    Keep it up bro!

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    Sounds good bro. Make sure your diet is in order before you start, and you'll be more than happy with your gains

    1buffsob

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    By the way give your friends the URL so they stop sending people down the wrong road. The sponsor's book is a great tool it's handy to have around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by briancb1
    First off - Thanks for the quick responce (are you sure you guys arn't being paid?)

    Brian
    lol, I wish! No we actually do this as a Hobby I guess you could say... I like hearing ppl's personal experiences rather than just going off of a case study on rats or women going through menopause.

    Glad to see you took the initiative to learn something when your health is at risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    lol, I wish! No we actually do this as a Hobby I guess you could say... I like hearing ppl's personal experiences rather than just going off of a case study on rats or women going through menopause.

    Glad to see you took the initiative to learn something when your health is at risk.

    Very very true totaly agree

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    Why don't we have more people like this?

    Good luck with your cycle man!

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    good luck... keep us posted

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300
    Very very true totaly agree
    700% AGREED

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    i would just like to point out.. that .. your friend is dumb
    that is all

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    i would just like to point out.. that .. your friend is dumb
    that is all
    .......how to end a discussion......

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    Your Friends Are Douchebags!

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    With friends like those...

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    Do the test only cycle bro. Dont listen to a word your friends are saying. In one ear and out the other!

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    dude seriously that is the worst advice EVER, thats why i never take advice from friends, but instead i research for my own, i trust the bros here.

    12 weeks of test E 250mg-500mg / week, nolva and pct - this is all u need for a first cycle.

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    Don't be the one taking advice from gym friends, be the one giving them the right advice.. do yourself and your friends a favor and start researching.
    Goodluck.
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    Nuff said........

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