Test Prop, Tren Ace cycle question

[vitamind]

Hi All.
I'll be starting my Test Prop and Tren Ace cycle shortly and had a question about the *shudder* test prop injection pain (which i experience on my last cycle of test prop and EQ). On my last cycle I was injectiong EOD of 1.5ml (150mg) of testprop and 1ml (200mg) or so of EQ. Sometimes I would get the "prop pain" for a day or two...or three...it sucked but wasn't dibilitating. Once I cut out the EQ at the end of the cycle tho, it was just about unbearable (the strait Prop). Actually had to stop about a week short to prepare for a snowbording trip....where being able to bend your legs is useful...
Anywhooo...

MY QUESTION: With my TestProp/Tren Ace cycle this time I'm going to do ED injections of .75ml (75mg) of test prop and 50mg of the Tren Ace. Also to try and still be able to walk like a human, I'm gonna cut this with injectible B12. Will less Prop, shot each day (cut with both the Tren and the B12) reduce the site injection pain? How much B12 should I use in this cocktail? This is BD Test Prop, btw.

BTW: 31 years old 5'9" 195lbs 10-12% body fat ...or there about... training since 16. Diet is solid.

Any advice or thoughts are greatly appriciated.

[taiboxa]

Hi All.
I'll be starting my Test Prop and Tren Ace cycle shortly and had a question about the *shudder* test prop injection pain (which i experience on my last cycle of test prop and EQ). On my last cycle I was injectiong EOD of 1.5ml (150mg) of testprop and 1ml (200mg) or so of EQ. Sometimes I would get the "prop pain" for a day or two...or three...it sucked but wasn't dibilitating. Once I cut out the EQ at the end of the cycle tho, it was just about unbearable (the strait Prop). Actually had to stop about a week short to prepare for a snowbording trip....where being able to bend your legs is useful...
Anywhooo...

MY QUESTION: With my TestProp/Tren Ace cycle this time I'm going to do ED injections of .75ml (75mg) of test prop and 50mg of the Tren Ace. Also to try and still be able to walk like a human, I'm gonna cut this with injectible B12. Will less Prop, shot each day (cut with both the Tren and the B12) reduce the site injection pain? How much B12 should I use in this cocktail? This is BD Test Prop, btw.

BTW: 31 years old 5'9" 195lbs 10-12% body fat ...or there about... training since 16. Diet is solid.

Any advice or thoughts are greatly appriciated.

yes volume plays a huge role in the pain in most b12 never did shit for me as far as CUTTING goes, btw i had BD products.. the 5%ba is stupid 2% is just as good and alot more user frienldy. anyways dont be a puss.. just run it ED at the lowest dosage possible i found that injecting HIGHER up on the quad works better for me

[DIESELPWR]

im starting the same thing almost except have bd tren and farmak prop

[dtr98]

if you're going ed, i would hit a different spot ed, like quads, pecs, delts and tris

[Cdup]

Ok, as far as my experience with prop. goes, I have never had the feared terrible inj. pain associated. I can see that that is only my experoence, but I say suck it up and do it...you'll be sore with or without the B12. IMO if you put 1 mL of juice in ya it would hurt less than 1mL of gear along with 1 or more mL of almost anything else. $.02 that's all it is. GL bro.

[Cdup]

Also, everyday injections get old anyways so just grin bear it and, if you can, learn to enjoy it like myself. Anyways good luck man and happy gaining.

[vitamind]

Yeah, I don't mind the actual needle pain. Kinda like that actually. It's the dibilitating soreness that stays with you for half the week that I'm trying to avoid.

[WEBB]

try running the syringe, once your cocktail is in it, under hot tap water i found this helped a lot when i ran 125mg ed. also rotate your sites everytime, cuts down on pain and scar tissue, good luck dude.

[vitamind]

Sweet. Thanks. I've heard about the heat thing. I'll give that a shot. I've also heard about briefly microwaving the solution (minus syringe). THAT seems a bit sketchy to me tho...
So nobody thinks this B12 additive will do much?

[mkrulic]

yes volume plays a huge role in the pain in most b12 never did shit for me as far as CUTTING goes, btw i had BD products.. the 5%ba is stupid 2% is just as good and alot more user frienldy. anyways dont be a puss.. just run it ED at the lowest dosage possible i found that injecting HIGHER up on the quad works better for me

I agree that 5% is overkill but from there standpoint it is a very smart move. ba is much cheaper than bb. just one more reason to make your own gear and since your doing two hormones that can be extracted from cattle implants it might not be that bad an ideA

[Deal Me In]

Vitamind, I cut my prop with B12. I don't get the excruciating pain that everybody talks about. I've been told that this depends on the brand of prop that you use. I've never done it without the B12 so I don't know how much difference it makes.

I take the B12 because it helps with my appetite. My problem has always been eating enough. When I'm cutting it's great but when I'm on cycle I take the B12 so that I'm always hungry.

But to your question, I use B12 and don't get any pain. But I don't know if I don't get pain because of the B12 or because of the brand of prop that I use.

[vitamind]

Thanks everybody.
With just the Test Prop and Tren Ace, I'm looking at a 1.4 ml total injection everyday. How much B12 would you add to that? I've hear add 1ml, but I've also heard try not to inject more than 2ml per day/site/injection....