Need opinions on this cycle

[vfr400]

this 2 cycles are for one of my friends he want to take one of them he is 28 years old and 100kg and 183cm and it will be his 4th cycle (he want to pass the 100kg and jump to 110 or 109kg)(he never take test)her it is the 1st cycle:

Weeks 1-4 Dbol (40mg a day)
Weeks 1-14 Test enan (500mg a week)
weeks 1-13 Equi (500mg a week)
weeks 1-16 HGH (4iu per days (5 days on and 2 off in a week))
Weeks 1-16 Nolva (10mg a Day)

PCT timing is :start it 2 weeks after last Test Enan injection as follows;
Days 1:21 (100mg clomid) (20mg Nolvadex)

2nd Cycle:

Weeks 1-14 Susta (750mg a week) 3 shoot per week
weeks 1-13 Equi (500mg a week)
weeks 1-16 HGH (4iu per days (5 days on and 2 off in a week))
weeks 1-16 Nolva (10mg a day)

PCT timing is :start it 2 weeks after susta injection as follows;
Days 1:21 (100mg clomid) (20mg Nolvadex)

he want to know what about this cycles and HGH will work good with this or not and what is the best cycle of this two cycles and what about pct and what about everything ?? thank you

[J0E]

Stats?
First cycle looks the best to me. Personally I don't like sust. Although its a great steroid.

[SMAN12b]

So, why not have you friend ask on here instead of you? How old are you?

[vfr400]

SMAN12b this cycles are not for me i'm on now and i'm 22years old but thank you????

[Kale]

HGH needs to be run for 6 months, he also needs to run the HGH for a couple of months before starting the cycle to get the most out of it

[SMAN12b]

HGH needs to be run for 6 months, he also needs to run the HGH for a couple of months before starting the cycle to get the most out of it

AGREED!!!!!

[vfr400]

thanks for info but what about this 2 cycles?? what would you chose??

[SMAN12b]

thanks for info but what about this 2 cycles?? what would you chose??

I wouldn't choose anything for a second cycle until I saw what the first one was doing for me, and depending on the goals for the cycle.

[vfr400]

i told u the goals befor he want to jump from 100kg to 109 or 110kg.sooo u think to take the first one and save the second for another time

[vfr400]

and what about the pct and all the cycle (1st or 2nd)

[HORSE~]

For us to ansewer these qestions we need both of your freinds ages stats and cycle history's.
SMAN can you post the link to your thread.

[SMAN12b]

IMHO your PCT time is TOO short. and time off the first cycle should equal at least the time on first cycle unless you get bloodwork done to confirm levels are ok, then you can JUMP into the second cycle, but NOT before

[SMAN12b]

Consider it done Horse: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=241645

[vfr400]

look sman he will take the first cycle. and pct for 21 days and begin the second cycle after 6 monthes or year from the first cycle. or after a blood work but what about to make the pct from 21 days to 30 days what do u think give me ur opnion and if u have a good idea for pct plz write it ?? but i think that the first is a good one too gaing a quality muscels and gaing weight

[SMAN12b]

IMHO I wouldn't run PCT any less than 30 days but each person is diferent. It all depends on his testicles...if they come back fast, then fine, if not then run it longer.

[vfr400]

Sman thank you for ur great info i will make him run pct till he done a blood work is right or wrong??and i wanna know ur openion about the 1st cycle (for gaing some weight (muscels) like 10kilo

[SMAN12b]

First cycle is fine except the HGH like Kale said. He should let it build up for at least two months BEFORE starting the cycle and run the HGH for minimum 6 months to really see its effects. Anything less and he will be wasting his money. It is said that you dont' even start to see results untl the third or fourth month on hgh

[vfr400]

soo it will be good if he run the 1st cycle but the gh start befor the cycle for 2 months

[SMAN12b]

soo it will be good if he run the 1st cycle but the gh start befor the cycle for 2 months

Did I stutter???? YES it would be good. I am on HGH right now since begining of the month and will start my AAS in July and continue running my HGH for 3 months after my cycle as well

[vfr400]

the cycle it will be like this right (
weeks 1-24 HGH (4iu per days (5 days on and 2 off in a week))
Weeks 8-12 Dbol (40mg a day)
Weeks 8-22 Test enan (500mg a week)
weeks 8-21 Equi (500mg a week)
Weeks 1-24 Nolva (10mg a Day)

PCT timing is :start it 2 weeks after last Test Enan injection as follows;
Days 1:30 (100mg clomid) (20mg Nolvadex)

[SMAN12b]

Check your math on the Eq and Test,

[vfr400]

what do u mean ?? test for 14 weeks and equi for 13 week

[vfr400]

the cycle it will be like this right (
weeks 1-24 HGH (4iu per days (5 days on and 2 off in a week))
Weeks 9-12 Dbol (40mg a day)
Weeks 9-23 Test enan (500mg a week)
weeks 9-22 Equi (500mg a week)
Weeks 1-24 Nolva (10mg a Day)

PCT timing is :start it 2 weeks after last Test Enan injection as follows;
Days 1:30 (100mg clomid) (20mg Nolvadex)

[SMAN12b]

the cycle it will be like this right (
weeks 1-24 HGH (4iu per days (5 days on and 2 off in a week))
Weeks 9-12 Dbol (40mg a day)
Weeks 9-23 Test enan (500mg a week)
weeks 9-22 Equi (500mg a week)
Weeks 1-24 Nolva (10mg a Day)

PCT timing is :start it 2 weeks after last Test Enan injection as follows;
Days 1:30 (100mg clomid) (20mg Nolvadex)

When we write out cycles like above, it is inclusive of the weeks you have written.
I.E. Weeks 9-23 = 15 weeks the way you have it written. It would start at the begining of week 9 and not end until the END of week 23 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23= 15weeks)

[vfr400]

sorry

[SMAN12b]

sorry

No Prob bro, it looks ok otherwise