guys i am getting ready to put together a cycle. been clean for a long time thought i might get going again. will run paki sust 500 a week dbol at 40 mg for 6 weeks and winny to finish last 4 weeks at 50 mg eod. now my question is i have some clen and wanted to use to that to lose weight and gain my abs back... do i use it before after or during my cycle. my abs are the only problem area when it comes to weight loss i am lean every where else. thanks in advance.