winstrol- help

[clarki]

i have just used gear for the first time preparing for a contest- winstrol oral and injectable 50-75mg a day (i know, probably too much for first time). i have naturally high testosterone and good genetics for gaining size. now, my course is over, the competition is over, and im using clomid. but, i still have no sex drive. how much does winstrol drop off your natural testosterone? and will i ever be able to gain size without gear again like i used to? i would be really grateful for some help here, thanx.

[marcus300]

Research is a powerfull tool when starting out for the first time, what are your stas/training experience?

why did you do winny only cycle?

[clarki]

because apparantly i only needed a bit of winstrol to harden up. that was my first contest. i competed at 195 lbs and im 5'11. im 19 years old. so could u tel me what winstrol does to your testosterone after a cycle?

[Xtralarg]

Winstrol shouldnt shut you too much at that dose especially,however, you are way too young to be using aas,dont get cought in the trap at such a young age!

[marcus300]

suppression of your natural hormonal levels will occur, this could of been avoided or at least helped by running test along side it, research is the key here, at your age you shouldnt be thinking of taking any kind of AAS, you have a chance of causing problems to your own hormone levels,

Train naturally and get a good solid base from diet and a good training program, you have enough hormones in the body to produce excellent muscle growth without adding AAS and a chance of messing your own natural hormone balance up,

It takes years to get a good base and if you do this correct at this age you will have the best advantage to produce rapid gains and will be far easier to maintain when you do decide to use AAS,

Go to the diet forum and check out the stickies at the top of the page and read all about diets/food and then go to the training forum, this is all you need and your age and stage, knowledge is power so research and don't do anything daft like taking anything at your age.

[layinglow]

my friend had the same problem running only winstol. he went to a doctor who actully perscibed him a low does test, some armidex and HCG. he ran them all together for a month using 500iu's ed of HCG and ended the HCG two weeks after the test.

[clarki]

so i could mess up my own hormone balance?! to b honest i wish i would have never used any gear, not yet anyway. so, do you think theres a chance i've ****ed up my hormone balance yet or what?

[Xtralarg]

well you have no sex drive so obviously something isnt right, im sure it will be ok though it will just take a little time.

[clarki]

xtralarg, where in manchester r u from?

[Xtralarg]

xtralarg, where in manchester r u from?

Next door but one to Marcus300.

[cfiler]

so i could mess up my own hormone balance?! to b honest i wish i would have never used any gear, not yet anyway. so, do you think theres a chance i've ****ed up my hormone balance yet or what?

Wait untill PCT is finished, and have your test levels checked with a doctor.

[marcus300]

Next door but one to Marcus300.

OH no you dont,

[Xtralarg]

OH no you dont,

Its pantomime time!

[aadrenaline]

so i could mess up my own hormone balance?! to b honest i wish i would have never used any gear, not yet anyway. so, do you think theres a chance i've ****ed up my hormone balance yet or what?

i would say no..but then again im no doc. i ran winny by itself once it didnt shut me down at all..made me hard as hell, but i still had a dick

[clarki]

rite- so i thought that test would only be a short term solution and would drop my nat. test levels down. so it doesn't? how does that work? and, do u think i should try using some hcg aswel as the clomid im using? iv only used the clomid for 4 days at 50mg a day so far. but stil, no ****in sex drive!

[layinglow]

yes use hcg and use clomid 10 days 150mg ed, next 10 days 100mg ed, last 10 days 50mg ed

[cfiler]

Are you not using nolvadex in your PCT?

[clarki]

someone told me i didnt need to use nolvadex because i am naturally quite masculine (because its an anti-estrogen isnt it?) what do u think?

[cfiler]

someone told me i didnt need to use nolvadex because i am naturally quite masculine (because its an anti-estrogen isnt it?) what do u think?

Nolva should always be included in PCT.

Clen, Nolva, and HCG are the base of all PCT regimes. You may need to add extra suppliments to aid in PCT for you. Like how test is the base for all aas cycles, these are the base of all PCT cycles.

PS
Who ever told you, that you didn't need nolva "because you are naturally masculine," is an idiot.

[Casa]

Is it bad to take Winstrol by itself?? I'm not that bulky, i'm pretty skinny already but want to get hard and cut and was thinking of taking winstrol. I was hoping it would help me gain some lean hard muscle mass.
Is this a bad idea?

[Booz]

Is it bad to take Winstrol by itself?? I'm not that bulky, i'm pretty skinny already but want to get hard and cut and was thinking of taking winstrol. I was hoping it would help me gain some lean hard muscle mass.
Is this a bad idea?

start you own thread mate..............no hijackin...........

[layinglow]

nova is better but he can use clomid if thats what he can get