air at aspiration means defective needle?

[Mike Dura]

As I was aspirating during a glute injection, air filled the needle. Damn! Had to abort. Next, I replaced the sharp (but kept same gear filled chamber) and made sure it was on tightly, poked, aspirated, same result: Air filled the chamber. Damn! Abort #2.

Attempt #3. Intected test E back into 10ml vial.
Next, I grab a totally new syringe. I draw back plunger and suck 1cc of air and inject this air into the vial to create pressure. Next, I draw 1cc of SUIG test E from vial. Now, I poke, aspirate, damn it! Again, air fills the chamber. That's three pokes yet no injection!

Do I have a possible batch of defective needles here? Unbelievable! I don't want to poke myself 3 or more times before I get it right. Any suggestions here?

[davidboy]

have you tryed to inject different site?.. see what happens...or maybe needle is not attached correctly

[anaBROLIC]

when u pull back on the syringe to aspirate, there is going to be what looks like air bubbles. that is normal.

[SHAGGY]

Yes it it is normal. You are actually sucking a vacuum. If you have blood then you should abort injection en start al over, but what you had was normal. Three good injects actually as anaBROLIC said.

Hope we helped.

SHAGGY

[stuball]

As I was aspirating during a glute injection, air filled the needle. Damn! Had to abort. Next, I replaced the sharp (but kept same gear filled chamber) and made sure it was on tightly, poked, aspirated, same result: Air filled the chamber. Damn! Abort #2.

Attempt #3. Intected test E back into 10ml vial.
Next, I grab a totally new syringe. I draw back plunger and suck 1cc of air and inject this air into the vial to create pressure. Next, I draw 1cc of SUIG test E from vial. Now, I poke, aspirate, damn it! Again, air fills the chamber. That's three pokes yet no injection!

Do I have a possible batch of defective needles here? Unbelievable! I don't want to poke myself 3 or more times before I get it right. Any suggestions here?

How much air ?? A bubble ?? Thats good, or does the whole syringe fill with air ?? If you had deffective syringes, you could tell after you pull from the vial you push the air out till you see a couple of drops, right, wouldnt sh!t be squirting from other parts ??

[Tren Bull]

As I was aspirating during a glute injection, air filled the needle. Damn! Had to abort. Next, I replaced the sharp (but kept same gear filled chamber) and made sure it was on tightly, poked, aspirated, same result: Air filled the chamber. Damn! Abort #2.

Attempt #3. Intected test E back into 10ml vial.
Next, I grab a totally new syringe. I draw back plunger and suck 1cc of air and inject this air into the vial to create pressure. Next, I draw 1cc of SUIG test E from vial. Now, I poke, aspirate, damn it! Again, air fills the chamber. That's three pokes yet no injection!

Do I have a possible batch of defective needles here? Unbelievable! I don't want to poke myself 3 or more times before I get it right. Any suggestions here?

i was always told that its normal to have air come into the needle when you aspirate... unless were talking a lot of air, like 1 cc or more

as far as i can remember, air always comes into my needle when i aspirate

[lzicc]

How hard are you pulling back till you get air?

[Mesomorphyl]

Agree with other assesments. If there was vacuum it was just bubbles... ok. But if it was aspirated and pulled easy it sounds like the needle not attatched or if something is defective it would be the canula or the syringe itself.

I bet you were just creating a vacuum.

[Cornholio]

Attempt #3. Intected test E back into 10ml vial.

Did you use a clean needle?

[Lavinco]

OMG dude!
When you asperate, you are supposed to see air bubbles caused from the vacume in the sryinge.

If you see blood, then pull out and start all over but if you see air bubbles then inject.

[*Narkissos*]

Any suggestions here?

Have you injected before Mike?

[RA]

As I was aspirating during a glute injection, air filled the needle. Damn! Had to abort. Next, I replaced the sharp (but kept same gear filled chamber) and made sure it was on tightly, poked, aspirated, same result: Air filled the chamber. Damn! Abort #2.

Attempt #3. Intected test E back into 10ml vial.
Next, I grab a totally new syringe. I draw back plunger and suck 1cc of air and inject this air into the vial to create pressure. Next, I draw 1cc of SUIG test E from vial. Now, I poke, aspirate, damn it! Again, air fills the chamber. That's three pokes yet no injection!

Do I have a possible batch of defective needles here? Unbelievable! I don't want to poke myself 3 or more times before I get it right. Any suggestions here?

[Lavinco]

I think this will be the replacement for "Can you drink winny"?...."Are you supposed to see air when you asparate?"

[Superhuman]

I think this will be the replacement for "Can you drink winny"?...."Are you supposed to see air when you asparate?"

almost as good, but not quite!

[Lavinco]

Just out of curiosity Mike, what did you expect to see when you aspirated?

[BADASS323]

I think this will be the replacement for "Can you drink winny"?...."Are you supposed to see air when you asparate?"

lmfao

[ascendant]

though most the info in here has given you all the answers you need, you are either doing one of two things. either one, it's a vacuum, in which case if you stop pulling back to apirate, the air should dissapear. all you're doing is taking the air that is in there already and expanding it. a tiny bit of air like that is harmless.

the other problem, which would be indicated if after aspirating and releasing the air stays in the syringe, would be that the needle isn't secure to the syringe. if it's a screw-on, make sure it's twisted on tight. if it's just a push-on, again, just make sure it's snug. that's about it.

[Act of God]

whoah whoah whoah....


you can drink winny?

[Mike Dura]

What I'm talking about here is a huge air bubble that remains after I let go of the plunger. The air pocket is about 1.5 cc. What should happen (to the best of my understanding) is that a bubble appears during aspiration but once you let go of the plunger, the vacuum created makes the plunger bounce back.

when u pull back on the syringe to aspirate, there is going to be what looks like air bubbles. that is normal.

[Mike Dura]

Back in the day, I use to do glute injections myself (obviously, I didn't aspirate). Now I showed my brother how to do it and he does it for me. The first injection went well. Since then we've hit this impasse and it's been a literal pain in the ass.

Have you injected before Mike?

[Mike Dura]

One of two things. Blood if it's hitting a vein or a temporary bubble (that is a vaccuum) after which the plunger should bounce back upon releasing the plunger. That's what I would expect.

Just out of curiosity Mike, what did you expect to see when you aspirated?

[Mike Dura]

No, it was the same needle I poked into my glute. But I always wipe the top with alcohol before the next injection. On the other hand, I'm thinking it's possible that my own blood can possibly get into the vile. I'm thinking that the test E also has some antibacterial stuff in it. I think I read that on the vial (and SUIG labs has a good reputation, I've read on other boards).

Did you use a clean needle?

[stuball]

What I'm talking about here is a huge air bubble that remains after I let go of the plunger. The air pocket is about 1.5 cc. What should happen (to the best of my understanding) is that a bubble appears during aspiration but once you let go of the plunger, the vacuum created makes the plunger bounce back.

1.5 cc of air ??? What are you a balloon ??? Only f'n with ya, thats more air than gear...How hard is he pulling back on that plunger ?? Thats a lot of fvckin air !!! Im sure someone will be able to help you..

[Mike Dura]

My bro is doing it so I don't know.

1.5 cc of air ??? What are you a balloon ??? Only f'n with ya, thats more air than gear...How hard is he pulling back on that plunger ?? Thats a lot of fvckin air !!! Im sure someone will be able to help you..

[stuball]

Is it possible to pull that much air ?? Maybe !!

[Mike Dura]

I think it may be coming from the attachment (a leak).

Is it possible to pull that much air ?? Maybe !!

[RA]

What I'm talking about here is a huge air bubble that remains after I let go of the plunger. The air pocket is about 1.5 cc. What should happen (to the best of my understanding) is that a bubble appears during aspiration but once you let go of the plunger, the vacuum created makes the plunger bounce back.

But while aspirating why would you pull back 1.5cc's worth?

[stuball]

I think it may be coming from the attachment (a leak).

Before you inject, you push all the air out then shoot, wouldnt you seee any stuff coming out of the attachment ????

[Lavinco]

My bro is doing it so I don't know.

This is why I fly solo when I inject.

You will never know if it's done right unless you do it yourself.

Wait till your brother hits a nerve. You will wish you had control of the neddle yourself then.

[Mike Dura]

Yeah, but you can't aspirate solo with glutes. I had a knowledgable person demonstrate the procedure and it turns out that my bro was screwing it up. When he aspirated, he didn't let go of the plunger or it would have just gone back and the air would have disappeared.

When he told me there was a huge "bubble" I had assumed he let go of the plunger because I had explained to him twice that that's what you do. Yet he didn't and that was the problem. Damn, these f'n kidz! I think he was just nervous as I was explaining it to him. He's high strung. Thanks for everyone's feedback.

This is why I fly solo when I inject.

You will never know if it's done right unless you do it yourself.

Wait till your brother hits a nerve. You will wish you had control of the neddle yourself then.

[Mike Dura]

I know that but my brother didn't and we miscommunicated.

OMG dude!
When you asperate, you are supposed to see air bubbles caused from the vacume in the sryinge.

If you see blood, then pull out and start all over but if you see air bubbles then inject.

[RA]

Yeah, but you can't aspirate solo with glutes. .

Yes you can.

[Mike Dura]

Really? By twisting around I guess? I guess it could be doable. It must be awkward though right?

Yes you can.

[RA]

Really? By twisting around I guess? I guess it could be doable. It must be awkward though right?

It is somewhat. I normally lay on the bed to do it and my side gets cramped a bit but I stab, aspirate, and shoot glutes. I have the wife do it normally but she doesnt give any shots when Im in the doghouse.

[Mike Dura]

Lol. My girlfriend would never that for me - even on a good day.

It is somewhat. I normally lay on the bed to do it and my side gets cramped a bit but I stab, aspirate, and shoot glutes. I have the wife do it normally but she doesnt give any shots when Im in the doghouse.

[Tren Bull]

What I'm talking about here is a huge air bubble that remains after I let go of the plunger. The air pocket is about 1.5 cc. What should happen (to the best of my understanding) is that a bubble appears during aspiration but once you let go of the plunger, the vacuum created makes the plunger bounce back.

yea, 1.5 ccs is huge man. that does not sound normal

[Tren Bull]

Really? By twisting around I guess? I guess it could be doable. It must be awkward though right?

using a mirror to see the syringe would probably work better

[eberasain]

just poke and inject bro.... no worries...

[Superhuman]

make sure your pin is screwed on extremely tight - some brands don't come tight, like the kind AR sales. BD syringes come ready to go, but the Turimo(sp) come loose when you get them. That could be your problem.

[statuZ]

lets just say if you didnt see air then you probably did have a defective injection partner.