3 supplements- need advice

[rukus43]

Alright guys,
I am looking for something to increase intensity during workouts as I find myself yawning and not as focused as I would like to be. The first is Ultimate Orange (ultimateorange.com)...first released courtesy of Dan Duchaine in the early 80s in Venice. It is supposed to seriously increase intensity and has not fat, cholesterol and is very low in sugars (4 grams/scoop).

The next is Spike by Biotest (I first saw this product in the ************* store)...its is supposed to be a elegant and clean (not just a pill of No-doz) and not give you jitters or cause addiction.

The third product is an anti-inflammatory called Flameout by Biotest (also on the ******** site)...supposed to have a heavy dose of ***** 3s among other ingredients to help with muscle recovery. With regards to this I am already consuming the necessary BCAAs and L-Glutamine dosages (and of course adequate rest) and am just wondering about this product in addition to my recovery regimen.

Let loose.

[UpstateTank]

the only thing i know about those is the ultimate orange that was just re-released isnt as effective as the original due to lack of ephedra! not sure about the other products...one suggestion have you tried looking into ergopharms amp?

[rukus43]

no havent looked into that...how is it...btw I took the ultimate orange today around 7pm and lifted around 8pm and had a pretty decent workout but thats probably because I am on cycle also and I cannot differentiate btwn the effects of the two. Also, should I continue with the ultimate orange while on cycle or will it be a waste?

[kloter1]

Search the web for original stacker 2's (i just bought some ). other than that i would buy some arginine powder and cap it.

[rukus43]

Will do. Thanks.

[JohnboyF]

Have you used the ECA stack? It's cheap and easy .. AMP is expensive but great


Spike seems good never tried it though.

[rukus43]

the ECA stack is ephedra, caffeine, and arginine right?

[JohnboyF]

Asprin not arginine

[rukus43]

How would I cycle the ECA? I am sure it will get the job done but won't it result in jitters and other sides?

[embalmer]

2 weeks on 2 weeks off to allow your beta 2 receptors to open back up otherwise a thyroid storm or something along those lines might come into play

[SVTMuscle*]

my favorites:
NO-Xplode
Cell Mass
GAKIC (yes its true)
Animal Pak
and im gonna try Vitargo CGL

[rukus43]

I am going to cap arginine and get on the ECA and if the ECA is too much for me or I feel weird I will purchase the stacker 2s and if they don't work then I will purchase the ergopharm AMP as a last resort because it is pricey. Man, I really hope something works. I have not been feeling as focused lately even though I am on cycle and I get enough rest. I guess I just need to be mentally stronger.

[SVTMuscle*]

Ergopharm AMP is amazing also I forget that one

[donniebrasco]

the new chaos by anabolic innovations is supposed to be better than no-xplode, i love no-xplode but havent tried chaos( you can get it with caffeine or without )