need help with my cycle

[godkilla]

well i am currently 5 weeks into my 16 weeks cycle, and i have a few questions concerning anti-e's and such. i just wanna make sure i got everything i need to run a safe and succesful cycle. here it is;
test prop 100mgs ed wks 1-16
tren ace 50mgs ed wks 9-16

i have been taking 20mgs nolva ed and just wanted to know what i should have on hand while running the tren. i was thinking maybe some letro and possibly some hcg for the boys? i know i shoulda had this all thought out before i started, but i decided to add the tren and extend the cycle after i alrdy started.... any suggestions for this cycle and/or pct would be appreciated. i was originally thinking just your standard 30 day pct of clomid, nolva and maybe some clen, but if i start with the letro or hcg i know that could change my pct quite abit.

[C_Bino]

It is different for everyone as I am sure you already know. But as far as I am concerned an AI is a must when using a 19-nor in a cycle such as tren.
I personally like letro a lot but arimidex could be used as well. Nolva just doesnt cut it for me in terms of anti-e support during cycle.

HCG is up to you, it is a fairly long cycle so its not a bad idea to have it on hand and shoot 250iu or 500iu if you feel you need it.

Also just to put this out there I would start and end tren one week earlier than you have it set as of now. I just personally like running test out a bit longer than the 19-nor I have in the cycle because they seem to linger around like a dirty fart.

[godkilla]

so how does this look

test prop 1-16
tren ace 8-15
nolva 20mgs ed
arim .25mgs ed soon as i get ahold of some more, prolly at the start of week 7
pheedno's pct because it worked really well for me previously. i might throw some hcg in the mix, how would you recommend dosing that? i was thinking 250iu e2d or maybe 500iu twice a week?

[Merc..]

Dont use the nolva with the tren.. As It will raise PgR in brest tissue and give more of trens metoblites to bind to .. Since your in wk 5 and not plaining on starting the tren until wk 8 or 9 I would start letro now ( most take letro 2 wks before starting a cycle becacuse it takes time to build a steady blood plasma).. Also letro has been show to lower progesterone receptors so is a good chioce with tren...There are conflicting studies on if nolva reduces the effects of third generation Ai's like letro . Some say they do some say they dont so nothing is set in stone on that but dont take it while your using tren.. On the HCG you can do 250 ius E3D and see how that works everone has diffrent ways they like to use HCG ...Also I would run the test two weeks longer than the tren to make sure there is no problems as Bino mentioned because 19nor do tend to linger ... Keep us poted on your progress.....

[godkilla]

i dont got any letro, but i got some arim on the way. it should be here early next week. could i use that instead of letro or do i have to place another order?

[Kale]

so how does this look

test prop 1-16
tren ace 8-15
nolva 20mgs ed
arim .25mgs ed soon as i get ahold of some more, prolly at the start of week 7
pheedno's pct because it worked really well for me previously. i might throw some hcg in the mix, how would you recommend dosing that? i was thinking 250iu e2d or maybe 500iu twice a week?

If you are running Arimidex ED I wouldnt bother with the Nolvadex at all bro. Either way with the HCG doses you have there will work as well

[Merc..]

i dont got any letro, but i got some arim on the way. it should be here early next week. could i use that instead of letro or do i have to place another order?

I like the letro when using tren.. Also letro is a stronger AI than adex so IMO is a benefit as progesterone needs estrogen to cause gyno and letro works better at keeping estrogen in check than adex IMO.. Also prefer letro when using tren because of it ability to help lower progesterone receptors.. But it is up to you on that one man!!!!

[godkilla]

well i just found out my source doesnt carry letro. i tried ordering some from AR but they only take credit cards and i dont got one of those....... sorta running outta options here. looks like its arim for me :|

[Kale]

well i just found out my source doesnt carry letro. i tried ordering some from AR but they only take credit cards and i dont got one of those....... sorta running outta options here. looks like its arim for me :|

Check with Bino but I think you will be OK with A-dex.

[godkilla]

well bino whatcha think? and thnx for the help everyone.

[godkilla]

bump

[Merc..]

This is from Bino's all you need to know about gyno sticky.. It is post #198 you can check it out but this kinda pertains to your question !!!!! Kinda LOL !!!!

Quote from Bino
in his gyno sticky ...

Ok just to add one more thing. I hope some newbies read this. Im going to say this as straight forward as I can. LETRO is in my experience THE BEST product to reverse gyno. I said it straight forward in the initial post and was hoping people would take the time to read it yet I have still recieved dozens or PM's asking "Can I use arimidex for gyno," or "I know you suggest letro, but what about aromasin" or how bout proviron etc etc. Even when I reply to the PM I get another PM back saying ok but I may just give arimidex a go anyways.

Listen people if you want my advice GET LETRO, LETRO AND MORE LETRO. Yes sure other compounds can reverse gyno too, nolvadex can even do it. So sure go ahead and use whatever you want but I am telling you that letro is you best option hands down. So please no more PM's about using something else.
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Bino

I know your not trying to revese gyno but I thought I would post it anyways lol.. And bump for bino's exact answer to your question....

[C_Bino]

Use arimidex man if you just want a good AI and cant get your hands on letro. It does the job just fine as well.
Thanks for the post Mercedes

[godkilla]

just ordered some letro and cabergoline. gonna start running those and drop the nolva as soon as i get the letro. i was thinking .5-1mg letro ed and .25mg caber 2xweek. as for the hcg i am gonna run that at 250ius ed for the last three weeks of my cycle leading up to pct. i was wondering if i can mix the hcg into my prop/tren shot?

also i had a question about my pct. originally i was gona run 100mgs clomid, 20mgs nolva and clen ramped up too 100mcg for 30days. now that i am using hcg and letro in the cycle i was wondering if there would be a better way to run my pct.

so far i am thinking something like this;
test p wks 1-16
tren a wks 8-15
nolva wks 1-7
letro wks 8-??
caber wks 8-??
hcg last three weeks (stop 3 days before last prop shot)
clomid therapy 2 days after last prop injection
and maybe clen with the clomid

[godkilla]

bump for some help with my pct. please and ty

[godkilla]

just ordered some letro and cabergoline. gonna start running those and drop the nolva as soon as i get the letro. i was thinking .5-1mg letro ed and .25mg caber 2xweek. as for the hcg i am gonna run that at 250ius ed for the last three weeks of my cycle leading up to pct. i was wondering if i can mix the hcg into my prop/tren shot?

also i had a question about my pct. originally i was gona run 100mgs clomid, 20mgs nolva and clen ramped up too 100mcg for 30days. now that i am using hcg and letro in the cycle i was wondering if there would be a better way to run my pct.

so far i am thinking something like this;
test p wks 1-16
tren a wks 8-15
nolva wks 1-7
letro wks 8-??
caber wks 8-??
hcg last three weeks (stop 3 days before last prop shot)
clomid therapy 2 days after last prop injection
and maybe clen with the clomid

bump for some help with my pct.

[Merc..]

just ordered some letro and cabergoline. gonna start running those and drop the nolva as soon as i get the letro. i was thinking .5-1mg letro ed and .25mg caber 2xweek. as for the hcg i am gonna run that at 250ius ed for the last three weeks of my cycle leading up to pct. i was wondering if i can mix the hcg into my prop/tren shot?

also i had a question about my pct. originally i was gona run 100mgs clomid, 20mgs nolva and clen ramped up too 100mcg for 30days. now that i am using hcg and letro in the cycle i was wondering if there would be a better way to run my pct.

so far i am thinking something like this;
test p wks 1-16
tren a wks 8-15
nolva wks 1-7
letro wks 8-??
caber wks 8-??
hcg last three weeks (stop 3 days before last prop shot)
clomid therapy 2 days after last prop injection
and maybe clen with the clomid

Sorry buddy I missed your other post.... Make sure when you stop the letro you taper the dose down dont just stop using it... Might want to go ED at .25 mg of letro and see how that works at first( letro is stong )... Caber dose looks good... I like hookers pct.. I personally dont think clomid by itself is proper pct.. I have recoved the fastest when using his protocol ( had bloodwork done to check this)... There is a link at the bottom of my signature( hookers pct) if you have not seen his protocol yet....

[godkilla]

since i dont got any aromasin and vit e i was thinking that i would taper the letro down (like you suggested) leading up to my pct. then i would run pheednos pct of clomid/adex/nolva for 30days. also using hcg at 250iu ed for the last 3 weeks of my cycle. would there be any benifit of running the cabergoline during pct or should i drop it b4 like the letro and hcg?