Gear choices - cycle review

[rock75]

Ok, here is the scenario. If you wanted to build slow steady gains over a 6wk course, then off and back on using fast esters and slow esters what would your choices be. (There was a thread that made mention of a compound of a fast acting deca, but can't remember the name.)

Here are my current thoughts:

Prop - 100mg/150mg per day for wks 1-3
Cyp or Ent - 200mg/300mg eod wks 1-2 (will be running through on wks 4 & 5 and drop off during wk 6)
Tren - 50mg/75mg ed for wks 5-6

pct - clomid and nolva

[FranKieC]

NPP is fast acting deca and why would you only run Cyp till week 6 when it will kick in around your 4th week? I'm not sure I totally understand your ?

[Morpheaus]

Nandrolone Phenylpropianate - used EC 200mg p/ml last cycle, you see and feel the difference quick.

[axiomatic6]

i dont think 6 weeks is long enough for a cycle. perhaps if you were running dbol and test prop and/or tren acetate. you could end up keeping some mass. i find dynabolan the most effective "deca". i think 8 weeks would be the minimum and just drop the lonf acting esters, conitue with prop the whole cycle.

[rock75]

NPP is fast acting deca and why would you only run Cyp till week 6 when it will kick in around your 4th week? I'm not sure I totally understand your ?

thanks for the NPP!!!

i believe the half life of cyp or e is approx 14 days, so by wk 3 my first shots will start kicking in and will be running by itself through-out wks 4 -5 and will decrease naturally through wk 6, at which time the tren which is another fast acting will cover through wk 6. Do you think I should run the tren an extra wk just to give more time for the c/e to drop out?

[rock75]

i dont think 6 weeks is long enough for a cycle. perhaps if you were running dbol and test prop and/or tren acetate. you could end up keeping some mass. i find dynabolan the most effective "deca". i think 8 weeks would be the minimum and just drop the lonf acting esters, conitue with prop the whole cycle.

a mate of mine at another board does these short cycles within 4 wks, he has packed on some serious size and has maintained 99% of it. His dosages were much higher, but slow and steady are just fine for me.

[FranKieC]

I would run it like this

Cyp 1-10 500mgs EW
Prop 1-3 100mgs ED
Tren 1-8 75-100mgs ED

[rock75]

I would run it like this

Cyp 1-10 500mgs EW
Prop 1-3 100mgs ED
Tren 1-8 75-100mgs ED

that puts the cycle at 12wks. For me that is too long, I stop seeing gains and to me that would be a waste of gear. A modification of yours here:

Cyp - 1-4 (will equal 8 wks on) 500E3-4D
Prop 1-3 100mgs ED
Tren 1-8 50mg/75mg ED (haven't run tren yet and by reading ppls posts will want to start off with a low dose to see how I react)

[FranKieC]

that puts the cycle at 12wks. For me that is too long, I stop seeing gains and to me that would be a waste of gear. A modification of yours here:

Cyp - 1-4 (will equal 8 wks on) 500E3-4D
Prop 1-3 100mgs ED
Tren 1-8 50mg/75mg ED (haven't run tren yet and by reading ppls posts will want to start off with a low dose to see how I react)

I thought you have run it before my bad

Start off with 50mgs ED and see how it goes. I assume you are usuing acetate so if you have any sides that are unberable just discontinue and they will subside with a few days. I still think the Cyp should be run through at least week 8 but it's up to you.

[Ejuicer]

Ok, here is the scenario. If you wanted to build slow steady gains over a 6wk course, then off and back on using fast esters and slow esters what would your choices be. (There was a thread that made mention of a compound of a fast acting deca, but can't remember the name.)

Here are my current thoughts:

Prop - 100mg/150mg per day for wks 1-3
Cyp or Ent - 200mg/300mg eod wks 1-2 (will be running through on wks 4 & 5 and drop off during wk 6)
Tren - 50mg/75mg ed for wks 5-6

pct - clomid and nolva

I would just stick with using prop, tren and maybe an oral and dropping the cyp altogether.

[FranKieC]

I would just stick with using prop, tren and maybe an oral and dropping the cyp altogether.

That is another good option but he seemed adament about using Cyp

[SprintUSMC]

Prop and tren are a great combo...more than you will need actually. Prop is a bitch to do every day, but its worth it. I agree with dropping the cyp...

[rock75]

i guess I could drop the Cyp and run prop. Just thought about the change in esters through out the course.

Would the NPP be suitable?

[rock75]

bump, anyone else??

[rock75]

bump

can u run test prop and NPP at the same time?

[rock75]

yes you can...alrighty then