cycle feedback...

[adude006]

I'm still in the planning stage but need some input if I’m on the right track. This would be my 1sy cycle.

Stats: 23, 5"5, 165, bf% - not sure, maybe in the 12-15% margin or less.
Been working out since I was 16; got excellent diet
- Goals: Strength / maybe lean mass - I don't care much about weight now. No plans for a second cycle for another 2-3 yrs atleast.
- And no, i don't want to use test right now.

Boldenone or Deca 225mg/week (week: 1-10) - maybe i'll use primo if i can get it for really cheap. i doubt though.
* Dianabol 20mg/day (week: 1, 2, 3)
* Turinabol 30-35mg/day (week: 7, 8, 9,10) - only if i can get my hands on it. If not dbol will be 4 weeks.

** Arimidex 0.5mg/day (week: 1-10)
** Nolva ?mg/day (week: ?) – will work it once i figure out for sure what i'm going to use. Mostly it will be like a 40mg daily/week 1, 30mg week 2, 20 mg week 3.

Thoughts? (good, bad, whatever....)

[InsaneInTheMembrane]

Hey, welcome to AR

my comments in bold

I'm still in the planning stage but need some input if I’m on the right track. you're notThis would be my 1sy cycle.

Stats: 23, 5"5, 165, bf% - not sure, maybe in the 12-15% margin or less.
Been working out since I was 16; got excellent diet post it in the diet forum and we'll tell you if its excellent
- Goals: Strength / maybe lean mass - I don't care much about weight now.So, you want to use gear but dont care about size gain? Is it just the strength you want? why? are you a powerlifter? No plans for a second cycle for another 2-3 yrs atleast.Then why even consider this cycle?
- And no, i don't want to use test right now.okay, reasons?

Boldenone or Deca 225mg/week (week: 1-10) - maybe i'll use primo if i can get it for really cheap. i doubt though.
* Dianabol 20mg/day (week: 1, 2, 3)
* Turinabol 30-35mg/day (week: 7, 8, 9,10) - only if i can get my hands on it. If not dbol will be 4 weeks.Any strength gains from this cycle will mosr probably quickly disappear after you discontinue the cycle, especially with no PCT and your intention not to do another cycle for 2 years....this cycle to me is pointless, especially since you dont care about the mass

** Arimidex 0.5mg/day (week: 1-10)
** Nolva ?mg/day (week: ?) – will work it once i figure out for sure what i'm going to use. Mostly it will be like a 40mg daily/week 1, 30mg week 2, 20 mg week 3. Do you even have a PCT plan laid out?

Thoughts? (good, bad, whatever....)

Adude, You're 23 and an adult, so you are free to do whatever you want with your body BUT it seems you dont have a solid reason for using AAS....you say you want strength but dont care for mass gains, but the strength you get on AAS is for the most part temporary, unless you're looking to gain some LBM too...which is also not sustainable since I dont see any proper PCT planned out...Sounds to me you are just looking to bust a plateau..there are plenty of ways to do that via training and non-AAS supplementation. I can say without a doubt that you are not ready for AAS yet...re-evaluate your goals, do some more research and then reconsider in another 6 months.

Look bro, I mean well, not trying to sound like an Anal Grandpa!

cheers

[lightwaytbaby]

"Stats: 23, 5"5, 165, bf% - not sure, maybe in the 12-15%"
i may suggest keep eating, and training hard before using AS.

[adude006]

oh thanks grandpa! haha yea it's cool.

Um 165 at 5'5 is good. I reach 170 easily when I’m on creatine but I come back to 165 once I’m off it. (remember i'm 5'5 not 6'0 so i don't need to be 200 pounds or something)

Right now I just want to take the strength/lean mass approach rather than bulking up. I'm not competing or anything so no need for me to go hardcore. Eventually down the road i might do a bulk cycle too but i need to do a mild cycle first where i can check my body's reaction out to aas. My plan was to do a PH cycle (max lmg / phera) but if i am going to do anything i might as well do the real gear than those ph stuff. Plus I don't want to do any test cycles first up so this seems the best.

My PCT is somewhat planned but i have to decide on my main cycle first.

dbol is fixed,
tbol depends on availability, (I actually don’t mind dropping the dbol for 6 weeks of tbol if I get it)
primo i doubt i will get it for cheap so that's pretty much out,
arimidex is for sure,
so i'm left with Boldenone vs deca. Both seem ok so i'm stuck there.

PCT right now it's Nolva for 3 weeks at 40,30,20mg 2 weeks after my last shot + a number of herbs & side supplements. I was planning on clomid too but I feel that nolva should be enough since i am anyways not doing a heavy dose cycle. Why take extra stuff just for the sake of it if nolva can get the job done.

[cfiler]

You could still gain alot more weight naturally imo. I'd build up a better base, and put on another 20lbs before running a cylce.

First cycle should be test only at 250-500mgs weekly for 10 weeks. It's best to run a longer running ester, so that you only need to inject twice weekly instead of ed or eod.

Check this post out, it has alot of great info for first cycles. click me

[Growingpains]

Very sound advice Insaneinthemembrane. My thoughts exactly.

[adude006]

I don't agree test should be with every cycle. The only reason i see is libio..but right now that is least of my worries! it aromatizes easily so want to wait before using that.