I know. Im new. Go easy on me. Need help

[Sableman]

Im just gunna kinda give you somthing to read for a while cus i really need some good honest advice.

20 years old
6'0
167-170lbs flexes.
Kinda work out, but not like a crazy gym rat. (Not yet anyway)
All my life iv been the small guy, Iv ate a lot, worked out. taken supps. NO-Explode. Creatine, all that shit. Nothing ever changed.

Always was picked on, the samller guy, no self esteem. not that smart. I have no drive when im at the gym to get that last rep out cus im just thinking. whats the point, nothings gunna change.

Started looking into Orals. and my friend got me some stuff (and I would like to know if anyone has ever heard of it)
Called P-Max.
and then some nolva for the post cycle.

well i was talking to this big build guy. good guy. He isnt a freak or anything trying to get money out of me.

he said I need to build a base up again, and get my joints strong, and then in about a month. he wanted to get me on a stack

Test250 injectable, im guessing its like Sustan250..[Is that the right way to spell it?]
Stacked with Dbol oral.
he said that would be good to start.
I really dont like the fact of injecting myself. period. but the harsh truth of it all is I would do it in a second to not be the smaller guy anymore.
but he said to get that big im gunna have to stick myself with somthing, orals just wont do it.

Im in a bind here. I cant get big naturaly. I dont want to take the time to get it, I feel like im 20, almost 21 soon, the girls want the goods while the goods are fresh you know. but I dont have a body that would turn someone on when my shirts off.
So im left with the disition to eaither get over (Which will never happen) or stick myself with a needle and inject my ass with test and pray to god I dont die from it.

If anyone could give me some help. or just anything. PLEASE PLEASE DO.

Thanks
-The small guy

P.S. Good sites or ways to research what im gunna take, side effects and all that. I want to know every detail about it before i do it.

[goalseeker]

research first.. then you'll get a whole buncha answers... But Id say your a bit young yet... get on a good bulkin diet and train hard for a couple years first... good luck..

[Surrender]

Lad a couple of things come to mind.

1) to young for Anabolic Steroids.

2) Your training is not to par

3) All the gear in the world is not going to get you big if your diet Sucks.

4) you diet sucks or you would weigh in excess of 200 lbs.

5) learn to eat and train and then come back at a natural 220 lb person and then ask about using gear

[perfectbeast2001]

Hey sable. Excellent post mate. Thanks for being open and honest. First off no one is stuck with being genetically small. Everyone is able to change there bodyshape with DIET and TRAINING. If your overweight you can eat less and if you are under weight eat more! You cant just eat anything though, diet is THE most important thing to get sorted. Training with bad diet is like night and day. Check out the diet forums and put something forward for critique. You have already admitted you are not a dedicated "gym rat" yet you are thinking about injecting drugs into your body. AS are for people who have trained there asses off and reached a natural plateau in size and strength. Does that sound like you? No it does not. You need to have a regular training regime and stick to it HARD. You can do that last rep because it DOES matter and you can get bigger.

[tard_zone]

To research certain steroids and their side effects go to the steroid profile section on the site, there is lots of useful information. http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=104

This chart just simplifies everything (side effects, gains, fat/water loss) http://www.steroid.com/effect.php

Injectables are safer than orals in the sense that injectables do not have to go directly through your liver, where as an oral goes through your liver which is hard on your liver.

For a first cycle, testosterone only.

But I would say wait till your a little older, I to wanted to start and I'm only 18. But people on this board saved me from being an idiot. So here I am doing my research so when I am at an appropiate age, I will have the knowledge on how to do it safely.

By the way, it seems like you aren't taking steroids for you, your doing it for other people. If that is the case, re-think.

[fLgAtOr]

I cant get big naturaly. I dont want to take the time to get it, I feel like im 20, almost 21 soon, the girls want the goods while the goods are fresh you know. but I dont have a body that would turn someone on when my shirts off.
So im left with the disition to eaither get over (Which will never happen) or stick myself with a needle and inject my ass with test and pray to god I dont die from it.

I think this is the problem statement...

1) Don't act like you're the only one who's 20 at 6'0" and 170 lbs. I was 6'3" and 160 lbs. my last year in high school, and I'm sure many others can share with you about there tall lanky frames. You have been blessed with height, stop bitching. So I would listen to the advice given, becuase we've all been there.

2)Remember that the majority of the members here, are in this lifestyle to be healthy, not just look good. Most here can do both. So the "do or die" attitude gives you, this website, and its memebers a bad reputation.

3)Get yer ass over to the diet and training forums and start studying. I can assure you there is plenty for you to learn.

4)Chill out, you have plenty of time.

[Sableman]

Good points.
Maybe im just being plain dumb about the whole thing.
Well..
Off to the diet and training fourms I go.

Thanks

PS I didnt mean to put a bad rep out on myself or anyone or the site. I just figured. I had questions, you guys had answers. made an account, asked, and got answerd.
So thanks for the help

[fLgAtOr]

Good points.
Maybe im just being plain dumb about the whole thing.
Well..
Off to the diet and training fourms I go.

Thanks

PS I didnt mean to put a bad rep out on myself or anyone or the site. I just figured. I had questions, you guys had answers. made an account, asked, and got answerd.
So thanks for the help

I wasn't coming down on you bro... Just make sure sure your in it for the right reasons. Last thing any of us want to see is you hurt yourself.

Go get huge.