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    John Kerry Trashes Our Troops -- Again

    John Kerry Trashes Our Troops -- Again
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o

    Kerry posted a statement about this on his websight, but says that his words have been skewed, so watch it for yourself........you be the judge.

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    i dont think he trashed our troops. he made the mistake of making a generalization which is gonna piss people off. it is not untrue that most of the enlisted troops are uneducated and/or are from poor neighborhoods. there was a TV special that followed Marine Recruiters in poor neighborhoods and how they basically said its easier to get the kids that arent going anywhere in life.

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    still he could have worded it better, he sounded like a douche.

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    kerry's response:

    "This is the classic GOP playbook," Kerry said in a harshly worded statement. "I'm sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did. I'm not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium."
    yeeesssh sounds like he grew a pair of balls 2 years too late!

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    yeeesssh sounds like he grew a pair of balls 2 years too late!
    It doesn't take balls to call people names. He is just pissed that he has been backed into a corner, again, and we have the video to prove what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    It doesn't take balls to call people names. He is just pissed that he has been backed into a corner, again, and we have the video to prove what he said.

    lol yea i guess. it does take balls to go to nam tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    lol yea i guess. it does take balls to go to nam tho.
    Yes it does, but I honestly believe that he went into the military for no reason but to set up his political career. Have you researched the shit that this man did and said back in the day during/after the war? My dad was in Vietnam as well, he remembers Kerry all to well.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    but I honestly believe that he went into the military for no reason but to set up his political career.
    the same could be said of bush joining the national guard. i dont see anything wrong with that tho. not everyone enlists for the sole purpose of defending ones country. many join because its a job, many join because it pays for college. others like you said see the political benefits of joining. i dont think that military service should be a prerequisite for higher political office although it is sometimes frowned upon when you dont serve. i wonder what will happen in 20 years when iraq 2 vets run for president. will they have a leg to stand on by fighting in a war that most americans disagree on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Yes it does, but I honestly believe that he went into the military for no reason but to set up his political career. Have you researched the shit that this man did and said back in the day during/after the war? My dad was in Vietnam as well, he remembers Kerry all to well.........
    pure revisionism. the fact of the matter is, he went to vietnam and bush flew in the national guard.

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    Are you saying that your father remembers Kerry from media coverage or direct contact during his time in the service? I can't wait to hear this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Yes it does, but I honestly believe that he went into the military for no reason but to set up his political career. Have you researched the shit that this man did and said back in the day during/after the war? My dad was in Vietnam as well, he remembers Kerry all to well.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    lol yea i guess. it does take balls to go to nam tho.
    Remember John McCain was there as well, in a prsion camp. He went after Kerry for saying this shit also. Now McCain may have an "R" after his name, but he is by no means a conservative, in fact he was one of the few that stood up for Kerry during the 2004 race.

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    I don't believe that Kerry intended to trash our troops. I think it was intended to trash the administration and it's poor policy making that led us into this quagmire and self-defeating war.

    I think this kind of impassioned talk is going to anger pro-republicans and inspire pro-democrats.

    Yet, I think that saying, "if you don't study hard you'll end up in Iraq" can be interpreted as saying that our soldiers are undereducated (which is probably true).

    I think anyone who by now can't see that this thing over in Iraq was a bad idea and ultimately cannot be won needs more information and greater sense. No doubt, you've been duped by a good political strategist who cares little for you and your socio-economic class.
    Last edited by Mike Dura; 10-31-2006 at 02:33 PM.

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    Name-calling is niether courageous or cowardly. It's just a norm in politics and no one does it better than Carl Rove (Bush's political strategist who has a reputation for Low-ball and at times illegal political tactics). Unfortunately, Rove seems to be above the law. His influence on Bush policy-making is well known too. Although Kerry mispoke, at least he isn't causing thousands of deaths in a phony war that is costing two billion a week to you and I the tax payer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    It doesn't take balls to call people names. He is just pissed that he has been backed into a corner, again, and we have the video to prove what he said.

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    I honestly hate that mother****er. While giving his speech he should have worn a turbin and held up an ak-47. The terrorists are cheering every time he and his ilk talk. Notice we are having more attacks right now? hmmm, I wonder why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    I honestly hate that mother****er. While giving his speech he should have worn a turbin and held up an ak-47. The terrorists are cheering every time he and his ilk talk. Notice we are having more attacks right now? hmmm, I wonder why.
    Hmm... Perhaps because we "illegally" invaded an other country under false measures... Did Kerry choose too? Nope... Did Bush? Bingo... Also, people like to say we haven't been attacked on our homeland since 9/11... Well... We hadn't been attacked before Bush came into office either... Unless you want to include the British... Oh and um... What Terrorists were we after in Iraq? Because Al Qaeda (the ones who did it) sure as hell weren't stationed in Iraq (They were all Saudi Arabians were they not?). Oh and I believe this needs to go here

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawMan018
    Hmm... Perhaps because we "illegally" invaded an other country under false measures... Did Kerry choose too? Nope... Did Bush? Bingo... Also, people like to say we haven't been attacked on our homeland since 9/11... Well... We hadn't been attacked before Bush came into office either... Unless you want to include the British... Oh and um... What Terrorists were we after in Iraq? Because Al Qaeda (the ones who did it) sure as hell weren't stationed in Iraq (They were all Saudi Arabians were they not?). Oh and I believe this needs to go here

    #1 Illegal according to who?

    #2 Kerry doesnt know wtf he did " I voted for it before I voted against it" we can leave that pathetic ignorant ass out.

    #3 How long did they plan the 9/11 attacks?

    #4 We can argue all day long about should we or shouldnt we have gone to war in Iraq. The reality is that we are there and dissention at this point is costing lives. Kerry is costing lives.

    #5 To think I cant respond to your textbook lib coating is overestimating yourself.

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    you are skating on thin ice anytime to make any remark that may be perceived as troop bashing. kerry fell through the ice here. i dont think he hates the troops tho, i think we can all agree on that lol!

    and i love mccain, he should have been our president. politics suck becuase after what bush did to him in the primaries in the real world he would have got shived in the kidney tai style. instead he has to defend the president because of that R.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    you are skating on thin ice anytime to make any remark that may be perceived as troop bashing. kerry fell through the ice here. i dont think he hates the troops tho, i think we can all agree on that lol!

    and i love mccain, he should have been our president. politics suck becuase after what bush did to him in the primaries in the real world he would have got shived in the kidney tai style. instead he has to defend the president because of that R.

    He bashes the troops all the time. It just doesnt get this amount of attention. He said before our troops were killing and raping innocent civilians, torture, blah blah blah. Guys 100% asshole

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    He said before our troops were killing and raping innocent civilians, torture, blah blah blah. Guys 100% asshole

    there are cases of these things happening. im not defending him because i think his comment was stupid. he should know better. he obviously isnt that smart. he isnt lying tho if he made comments about the things you listed above. Abu Ghraib isnt the only violation of human rights by american troops. im sure you could go on youtube and find something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    there are cases of these things happening. im not defending him because i think his comment was stupid. he should know better. he obviously isnt that smart. he isnt lying tho if he made comments about the things you listed above. Abu Ghraib isnt the only violation of human rights by american troops. im sure you could go on youtube and find something.

    When our country is at war and you say things at home to embolden the enemy to me your a traitor. Terrorists are specifically ramping up attacks right now trying to affect the elections. Who do you think they would rather see in office.

    If we were a united front on terrorism things would go quicker and it would save soldiers lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    When our country is at war and you say things at home to embolden the enemy to me your a traitor. Terrorists are specifically ramping up attacks right now trying to affect the elections. Who do you think they would rather see in office.

    If we were a united front on terrorism things would go quicker and it would save soldiers lives.

    so lets quit messing around and destroy the entire middle east. a few bad apples spoils the bunch. so lets uproot the tree and start over.

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    Kerry is a moron

    http://www.heritage.org/Research/Nat...y/cda06-09.cfm

    This shows that the majority of our troops are actually MORE educated than the general population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BajanBastard

    that picture is HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Well the Dems threw him under the bus...hes not campaigning anymore. They cant even justify his idiotic statements

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Well the Dems threw him under the bus...hes not campaigning anymore. They cant even justify his idiotic statements

    they shouldnt. sometimes in politics its nice to see people not defend at all costs and realize that the guy is a ****ing idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    they shouldnt. sometimes in politics its nice to see people not defend at all costs and realize that the guy is a ****ing idiot.

    Agreed

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    Be easy on Kerry! Keep in mind, not everyone can be as sharp as Gearge Dubya.

    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    they shouldnt. sometimes in politics its nice to see people not defend at all costs and realize that the guy is a ****ing idiot.

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