Clen while bulking

[bulldoglifter]

im 5'8 200
im trying to turn fat into muscle, im pretty solid but i would like another 10 pound transfer.
would clen be good to take while im trying to bulk?
mainly to keep that extra fat off when you bulk

im taking
drol
dbol
test

[HORSE~]

A proper deit will keep you from gaining fat while bulking no need for clen IMO....

How do you plan on runing this cycle?

[bulldoglifter]

dbol 50mg a day for 4 weeks
anadrol 50 mg a day 8 weeks
test 750mg a week for 8 weeks
and i have a proper diet but like i said im trying to transfer, and to gain the muscle wieght i have to loose the fat wieght

[perfectbeast2001]

bad idea, If you need to lose fat then forget that cycle and cut, then maybe use clen on it's own with diet and cradio.

[bulldoglifter]

that was the first plan and thats what i've done in the past but i thought i would try something knew, and maybe i would get to my goal quicker.
Why would it be bad?
Is their a science reson or is it a personal reason?

[Hunter]

Both a-bombs and d-bol are known for bloat and more suitable for bulks. diet determines if its a bulk cut or lean bulk some compounds are more suitable for certain goals and I would not consider d-bol and a-bombs the most suitable compounds for a cut. Also running two 17 aa steriods might not be the best idea but I always air on the side of caution.

[bulldoglifter]

the dbol thing makes a lot of scents

[Hunter]

I would run something like

Test e 750 mg week 1-12
winny 100 mg week 7 or 8-12

this is more of a cutting based cycle but diet is a large factor if its a cut or bulk. Gear is only a tool

[RYNO]

im 5'8 200
im trying to turn fat into muscle, im pretty solid but i would like another 10 pound transfer.
would clen be good to take while im trying to bulk?
mainly to keep that extra fat off when you bulk

im taking
drol
dbol
test

BTW, fat does not "transfer" into muscle or vice versa

[ascendant]

as ryno already stated, fat DOES NOT transfer into muscle. where did you ever get that idea from? protein from your diet is what builds muscle, and carbs and fats are the fuel used to move that protein into the muscles to build them. fat itself cannot be used to build muscle. anyone with even the slightest bit of any knowledge in physiology would know that.

as far as your bf%, where is it at right now? you don't lose fat while gaining muscle unless you're on a cycle designed for that in particular, which would need to include either HGH or tren of which yours doesn't have either of and i wouldn't advise for the beginner anyway, which with how little you know about this, i seriously hope you are.

also, a cycle is not typically used to cut either, especially one such as yours. the main priority of a cycle is to bulk up. if bf is a concern for you, you shouldn't be doing a cycle yet.

as far as taking dbol and drol together, again, where did you get that idea from? you have any idea what you're doing to your liver right now? i seriously hope you're not drinking with all this as well? you start peeing brown, get to a hospital asap, and don't be surprised if it happens.

you seem like you need to do a lot more research as you seem very uneducated about how muscle growth occurs, how fat loss occurs, how there is no "transfer" there, and how to make a SAFE cycle. i'm not even sure how to advise you at this point other than you should change that cycle to 1 oral only, completely revamp the cycle in general, and possibly even stop the cycle so you can prioritize cutting up, which should come BEFORE a cycle.

also, i hope you don't have a lot of bf while taking a cycle like that unless you want man-boobs. testosterone aromatizes in fat (this is a bad thing), and the more fat you have, the faster it will convert. most experienced bb's advise people to get into the single digits as far as bf% before doing any cycles. all things considered, i seriously doubt you're even close to that right now.

now let me ask you, how do you expect to gain muscle while cutting up? to bulk up, you need an excess amount of calories over your bodies daily caloric needs in order to have some extra to add on muscle with. with cutting up, your body needs to be deficient in calories so that your body needs to tap into fat stores as an energy source. now, how could you possibly do both?

[lifterjaydawg]

you could try cutting first with the clen and then doing a bulking cycle. but not at the same time.

[trulbfan3]

diet w/ clen, lean bulk, then diet w/ clen again