Stim and Trim Tolerance

[sman1]

Hello guys. i m new here. I'v been into bb trainign for over a year now. i v veen using stim and trim for the last 5 months. Not for weight loss but for giving me that extra pump while i workout. Should i cycle them and how do i do that??>

help me?? one last thing on the bottle of the capsules there something about tolerance. wot is this extactly. please help. shoudl io stop sao that me body gets used to without them and give it a new shock. ??? help me out

[nandro_shagg]

hahah wtf are u sayin bro...na j/k listen...i'm not familiar with the trim and stim or whatever that junk is but understand alot of supplements are hype...junk...dont buy into the name....i.e...Big Dawgs Bag Sweat...buy the compound...i.e....creatin...i think thats a good rule of thumb for someone on the comeup...and if u build tolerance to something yes your body has become accustomed to having it and it will take more of that compound to produce the same effect...alcohol is a good example...your body builds tolerance and so instead of a six pack of brew it takes a fifth of jim beam...got me?...in which case it would be smarter to back off your supps or drug of choice and give your body a break befor starting again...i hope this answers your questions im kinda puzzled by the post in general...

[perfectbeast2001]

stim and trim is a product that was originally the ECA stack (ephedrine caffiene aspirin) however Stim and Trim II now contains synephrine instead due to the ephedrine ban. Whichever one you are using I would suggest running it 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. The 2 weeks off will allow your body time to adjust and when you go back to using the tablets again they will work a lot better for you.
I can give you a more scientific explanation if you like but I thought keep it simple unless asked!

[cfiler]

Like said above, you would cycle this the same way you would a normal ECA stack.

2 weeks on, 2 weeks off for a total of 6 weeks on. Then take a break.

[sman1]

thanks perfectbreast.. urs was the only pleasurable reply maybe the most reliable. ok so... i m gonna give it a 2 week break. mine are the stim and trim I not the stim and trim II. then i will persue my inatke for a futher 2 weeks before another 2 weeks stop.. am i right? Butta... one question should i start again from one pilll on my next cycle...?? anddd.. do you suggestg i t5ake creatin... i m afraid of bloating.... i m 16 inch arms and i m afraid of bloating... wot do u say???

thanks for ur immediate reply king...

[perfectbeast2001]

yes mate after 2 weeks off start at the low dose again and build it up over 2 weeks then take 2 weeks off again.
Many suffer from bloating from creatine monohydrate but creatine Ethyl Ester users report less bloating so you might try that.
First and foremost you should have your diet worked out properly, do you know how many cals you consume a day? Do you know the macros for each meal you eat? If not you need to sort that out.

[sman1]

how can i work that out mate??? my daily caloric intake ... how can i do that??

[perfectbeast2001]

work out a diet (the cutting sticky in the diet forum is good) then tailor it to suit a person of your weight. http://members.nuvox.net/~on.jwclymer/bmi.html will tell you your BMI and BMR approx. You should then look up the harris benedict fomula to work out daily cals needed. you might also check www.calorieking.com as it lists lots of macros for food groups, you cannot hope to achieve anything unless your diet is perfect. Many people fail at the first hurdle as they are too lazy to work out a diet. Eating "healthy" is just not good enough.

[sman1]

hello mr perfect beast... hope all's well. listen do you mind if i forward my weekly workout for your opinion. i need someone proferssional for some advice on packing more muscle. would be great for you to tweak my workout for better results.

[perfectbeast2001]

you are welcome to post it up, unfortunately you will need to make more posts before you can pm anyone. Try posting it in the workout forum then i will take a look, plus lots of more knowledgable bros will critique for you too.