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    Lots Of Gear - Need Help Building Cycle

    3750mg Sus
    1500mg Primo
    3600mg deca
    90 tabs .02mg clen
    150 10mg tabs of Var
    15000 IU of HCG
    100 20mg tabs of Nolvadex


    I've gathered a ton of information and I just need some final thoughts before starting the injectables.

    I am 25 6' 202lbs at 12%bf.

    Goal - I would like to compete at the end of this year. I work at home so diet is on all the time. I currently take in 4000-4500 clean calories a day. I have the rare opportunity to just focus on the gym and bodybuilding for the next 3 months and nothing else. I need your help to maximize this.

    Above is all my gear in house. I do not want to spend any more money and I do not want to order any more gear. I need your help to maximize what I have.

    This is my 2nd cycle.

    I am currently on week 3 of T-bol @ 60mg. Good clean gains so far! I have not started any injectables.

    I want to stay cut, build lean muscle, and very little sides. Water retention is a big concern of mine. I would like to avoid it. I'm in no rush to "beast-up" at the expense of too much bf and sides. I have time, so please help me put together a good fold for the rest of my cycle.

    Thanks!

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    I think a sus and deca cycle would be good, not to sure on the dosing though, what is your cycle history?

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    You've already started an oral?

    What have your previous cycles been like? I've personally gotten below 10% before starting the cycle.
    Also that's way more juice than you need for a decent cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I**mfkr
    You've already started an oral?

    What have your previous cycles been like? I've personally gotten below 10% before starting the cycle.
    Also that's way more juice than you need for a decent cycle.
    I did the math IB and as it is too many compounds it is not nearly enough of one. By my calc he only has enough sus for 7.5 weeks. Primo for 2 or 3 weeks and deca for less than sus.

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    Basically he could do something like this.

    1-8 Sust 450-500mg/wk
    1-8 Deca 450mg/wk
    8-12 Var 50mg/day
    1-12 Nolva 10mg/day
    Dump the Primo/Clen/HCG

    12-15 Nolva 40mg/day
    16-18 Nolva 20mg/day

    But we don't know his previous cycle history so it's hard to recommend anything.. also who buys a bunch of gear not having any clue what to run?

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    But we don't know his previous cycle history so it's hard to recommend anything.. also who buys a bunch of gear not having any clue what to run?
    So far I've just done an oral only cycle. As far as all the gear, You get what you can get while you can get it.

    IB - Wouldn't adding Clen during a cycle keep my bf % low? Thank U for the advice.

    I can also save the left overs for a later cycle, but would it be a large mistake to add the Primo when the Sust runs out and continue through the cycle?

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    I**mfkr
    You've already started an oral?
    Yes, I have already started an oral. I am at the end of week 3 with T-bol @ 60mg. I have enough for another 2-3 weeks at this dosage. I wanted to fold in some injectables though.

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    Do you understand the compounds halflives and esters that you have on hand? If not then I'd start with that, after you figure out what you've bought and how the drugs work then you can begin to forge a intelligent cycle.

    I've already listed what I'd run with the compound provided.
    There are reasons why I said to leave out/sell the other compounds, either you don't have enough of them or they are junk and useless to you IMO.

    Clen? No, clean up your diet.
    Primo? You don't have near enough to do anything, don't waste your money/sell it!
    HCG? You're cycle isn't one that would require it, your dosages aren't high enough and the duration is short.

    Start the injectables ASAP if you'd like, but honestly I don't think you should run anything that you have on hand until you realize what you have and how to use it.
    Being that your Anabolic knowledge is next to none I'd bet your training/diet knowledge is in the same boat. (I'm not saying this to offend you), I'd rather see someone start off on the right foot with this sport than hurt themselves and begin using drugs way before they are necessary (like in your case).

    Peace.

    PM me if needed so I can reem your ass and hopefully talk some sense into you privately rather than on the open forum
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    Thank you I** for your input. For some reason I can not private you. I'm going to go with the 8 week sus/deca cycle and see how that turns out.

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    You need 25posts I believe, get a few more then hit me up.

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