2 of my friends are planning an 8 week (what is the point?) deca cycle without test(they want to use test boosters). One of them is nowhere near the teens in body fat %, and I know this idiot will consume alcohol every weekend. I tried to warn them, but they act as if I am stupid. Oh, and they plan to use dim as thier anti estrogen. I guess I am using this thread to rant, but does anyone else see how retarded this plan of thiers is?