AI's & Acne ?

[Z12]

I am about to start my first ever cycle (test e @ 600mg/week, maybe 700mg) and am worried about breaking out, as I am prone to acne. Alot of the research I've done seems to suggest that during a cycle, acne is in part caused by all the extra estrogen floating around in your body? From your experience, do you agree?

I've got enough Arimidex/Liquidex for ED of my cycle, but was not planning on taking it until I see gyno or bloat, if at all. Being prone to acne, do you think I should go ahead and take the a'dex throughout the cycle in hopes of warding off any possible acne caused by estrogen?? Or do you think the a'dex won't make a difference with acne?? If I were to take a'dex throughout, do you think it would hinder my gains at all, and if so, how much??

Just so you know, I will also be taking between 10 & 40mg of Accutane everyday during my cycle, depending on how I break out. Thanks a lot for your help guys, I appreciate it.

[Swifto]

I am about to start my first ever cycle (test e @ 600mg/week, maybe 700mg) and am worried about breaking out, as I am prone to acne. Alot of the research I've done seems to suggest that during a cycle, acne is in part caused by all the extra estrogen floating around in your body? From your experience, do you agree?

I've got enough Arimidex/Liquidex for ED of my cycle, but was not planning on taking it until I see gyno or bloat, if at all. Being prone to acne, do you think I should go ahead and take the a'dex throughout the cycle in hopes of warding off any possible acne caused by estrogen?? Or do you think the a'dex won't make a difference with acne?? If I were to take a'dex throughout, do you think it would hinder my gains at all, and if so, how much??

Just so you know, I will also be taking between 10 & 40mg of Accutane everyday during my cycle, depending on how I break out. Thanks a lot for your help guys, I appreciate it.

If your prone, use a low dose of an AI when "on". User's prone to acne seem to state acne isnt as bad when on an AI. I'm prone to acne and will not cycle without an AI if using androgens that aromotase at all. I only used Proviron 50mg/ED last cycle and got bad acne. Next cycle only includes a few aromotasables, to which, I hope, the AI will combat efficiently. Aromasin for me at 12.5-25mg/ED.

If your using Accuatne and AS, be sure to get BW done every 4 weeks, even if your on a low dose.

[Z12]

If your prone, use a low dose of an AI when "on". User's prone to acne seem to state acne isnt as bad when on an AI. I'm prone to acne and will not cycle without an AI if using androgens that aromotase at all. I only used Proviron 50mg/ED last cycle and got bad acne. Next cycle only includes a few aromotasables, to which, I hope, the AI will combat efficiently. Aromasin for me at 12.5-25mg/ED.

If your using Accuatne and AS, be sure to get BW done every 4 weeks, even if your on a low dose.

Thanks man. I'm starting to think I will take it, but will it hinder gains a lot?

Anybody else's opinion?

Yea, I'll be getting bloodwork, although I don't know if I'll be able to do it each month. I don't have a perscription, so I've gotta get bw through these confidential companies, which is a lot $. Anyone recommend a CHEAP place for bloodwork? Thanks for the help.

[Hellmaskbanned]

An AI won't solve your acne problem if your prone.

[Swifto]

An AI won't solve your acne problem if your prone.

It may help though.

[Hellmaskbanned]

It may help though.

Not helpin me at all.

[Swifto]

Not helpin me at all.

Few questions:

What AI? Dosage?

What aromotasables you using? Dosages? Inj. frequency?

How long you been on the AI?

[Hellmaskbanned]

Few questions:

What AI? Dosage?

What aromotasables you using? Dosages? Inj. frequency?

How long you been on the AI?

Aromasin/25mgs/day(gyno paranoid) Even though I had surgery ...I'm crazy.

Test Cyp/Was 600mgs, now been on 400mgs for 5 weeks/Injecting once a week do to it's LONG halflife, 2 is not needed. + long cycle. Also was on dbol, first 4 weeks, had minimal acne, now test is in full force it's kicked in.

Since the begining of december.

[SVTMuscle*]

Doing more smaller dosed frequent shots will help a bit also. To keep blood plasma levels more stable.

[Swifto]

Aromasin/25mgs/day(gyno paranoid) Even though I had surgery ...I'm crazy.

Test Cyp/Was 600mgs, now been on 400mgs for 5 weeks/Injecting once a week do to it's LONG halflife, 2 is not needed. + long cycle. Also was on dbol, first 4 weeks, had minimal acne, now test is in full force it's kicked in.

Since the begining of december.

Regardless of Test Cyp's long ester it should still be injected a lot more frequently, I feel. At least EOD. Its easier to attain stable blood plasma concentrations injecting a long ester regularly, than a short ester regularly.

I wont run a long ester again, unless its injected ED or EOD.

This thread is VERY interesting:

http://www.***********.com/t32465-th...ing.html<br />

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[guest589745]

Regardless of Test Cyp's long ester it should still be injected a lot more frequently, I feel. At least EOD. Its easier to attain stable blood plasma concentrations injecting a long ester regularly, than a short ester regularly.

I wont run a long ester again, unless its injected ED or EOD.

This thread is VERY interesting:

http://www.***********.com/t32465-th...ing.html<br />

Please add, iron for life.

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[Swifto]

I have a friend who gets acne fairly bad. He now injects Test Enan EOD and slowly tapers the dose down. He doesnt get acne as bad now. Slight breakout here and there, but nothing like it was. He suggested I do the same. I'll try it next time I use Test Enan or Cyp.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Doing more smaller dosed frequent shots will help a bit also. To keep blood plasma levels more stable.

I doubt it. Have in the past, same as before.

400mgs is pretty small dose already , to split that up is kind of pointless considering there's minimal dropage in levels if all in 7 days.

I'm monitoring someone else and he's not had any acne whatsoeva.(+ He's not running an AI or anti E) So I'm back to what I said in the first post of this thread. If your prone to acne an AI isn't gonna do squat.

[Swifto]

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[guest589745]

Why dont the links work!

Ggrrr...

http://www.iron*for*life.com/t32465*...ntloading.html

Take out the "*".

Competitor sites.

Theres like a dozen members from here over there too lol.

[SVTMuscle*]

I doubt it. Have in the past, same as before.

400mgs is pretty small dose already , to split that up is kind of pointless considering there's minimal dropage in levels if all in 7 days.

I'm monitoring someone else and he's not had any acne whatsoeva.(+ He's not running an AI or anti E) So I'm back to what I said in the first post of this thread. If your prone to acne an AI isn't gonna do squat.

Yeah i get acne from just creatine and a test booster, i cant imagine what real test would do to me!

[Swifto]

www.iron for life.com/t32465- thoughts- on- frontloading. html

Take out all spaces and it should work.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Thanks for the link, Ive g2g I've saved it and will read when i get back.

[fLgAtOr]

I doubt it. Have in the past, same as before.

400mgs is pretty small dose already , to split that up is kind of pointless considering there's minimal dropage in levels if all in 7 days.

I'm monitoring someone else and he's not had any acne whatsoeva.(+ He's not running an AI or anti E) So I'm back to what I said in the first post of this thread. If your prone to acne an AI isn't gonna do squat.

For you...Others may have had different experiences.

There was a very long discussion between Roberts, oswoldo and I about the relationship between estro and acne. In the end we didn't prove anything. But there are alot of us that believe high estro levels MAY contribute...When my acne was at its worst, so was my gyno and bloat.

I think you forgot the original question. Will there be any consequences for him if he takes Arimidex throughout. I say no. In other words, it would be better for him to take the arimidex, keep the estro under control, and hope for the best with his acne VS not taking the arimidex at all.

The benefits will far outweigh the negatives.

[Z12]

For you...Others may have had different experiences.

There was a very long discussion between Roberts, oswoldo and I about the relationship between estro and acne. In the end we didn't prove anything. But there are alot of us that believe high estro levels MAY contribute...When my acne was at its worst, so was my gyno and bloat.

I think you forgot the original question. Will there be any consequences for him if he takes Arimidex throughout. I say no. In other words, it would be better for him to take the arimidex, keep the estro under control, and hope for the best with his acne VS not taking the arimidex at all.

The benefits will far outweigh the negatives.

Thanks man. So I think I will run it throughout in the hopes that any possible acne will be less (every little bit counts). Again, the jury seems to be out as to whether or not the adex, or any AI/SERM, throughout will hinder gains. What are your guys' experience with that?

[fLgAtOr]

I don't think it will at all....I may keep that water weight down, which is a good thing.

[guest589745]

I like water retention besides the facial engorgement. I get better pumps the more "bloated" (If thats what is ahppening to me) I am.

[pigrond]

acne sucks ive had since my last wk of test and all through my pct still have it pretty bad but seems to be slowing down 7 wks now broken out

[elitetky]

me too acne prone i hate it i want to destroy it !

Ok guys i run accutant before it will help you to clear up ances like 100% need to run at least 6 months duration i have tired it and it works with 40mg everyday depending on your weight .

but for me it least for 1year+ couldnt remember the actual day

But what i recommend its using a AI like letrozolo or Armix its Good and stacking with Accutant its ok

if you plan on doing 1 - 14 weeks Test E & 40mg of Accutant everyday why not?

it is just not worth it to run a Super Cycle and you end up with a rotten face

anyway different people reacts to chemical differently you might want to try Anti botics for acnes Because it might work for u

for me i used to tried 12 or 14 different kinds of Anti botic and it doesnt help a shit Not untill the doctor prescribe me with Accutant after 2years of Anti botics

My ances are pretty Clear now as compare to last time , i using Anti Botic to maintain my acnes , KEEP YOUR FACE CLEAN AT ALL TIMES! AND RUN ACCUTANT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IF NOT YOU WILL BECOME THE NEXT SCAR FACE!