Looking for suggestions

[smithtc]

I am currently 20 years old and have been consistenly working out since the age of 14. Along with working out I am on a boxing team.

I am roughly 180-185. BF% maybe around 8-9%.

I'm at a point in my workouts where I don't notice any changes. I would like to bring my BF% down 3-4%. As far as dieting, I dont diet, eating healthy is a lifestyle for me although I could eliminate some carbs. I picked up the real stuff, "STAN QV 100" (Winstrol) thats right what it says off the bottle. 20ml.
I'm not an expert at this subject so bear with me.
I have been told different advice on the best way to take this, so I hope to get the best advice from here. Here is the pic I'm starting with and once I start the cycle I will post a new pic every 2 weeks to show you improvemnets.

Thanks alot

[smithtc]

Quick question to be sure. On the site it says to inject 50/100 mgs a day. If I use a syringe how many ml would that be?

[ronan the barbarian]

smithtc your in good shape but....forgeting your age....you really need to do some research into "gear" and how to cycle in general.
im by means an expert but i would ask............
whats your p.c.t.?
how long is this cycle your planning?
and are you really thinking of doing 700mg of winstrol a week for your first cycle???

if your vial says stan qv '100' id guess,and its only a guess,that its 100mg per 1ml.(it should tell you on the label.)
so if your really thinking of running upto 700mg per week,your little bottle will last about 2 and a 1/2 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!not a cycle at all.

one of the silliest things you can do is buy some random gear before you do your research,cus the temptation to take it anyway will always be there.a** that could cause some terrible sides.

not a flame or meant to critisise but to try and educate.you will get flamed off other members though.

theres lots and lots of quality info on this site you should read first.

research,research,research!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[t-gunz]

Looking good bro

[PROTEINSHAKE]

honestly man....I think you look good & have a good base to work from. 20 is too you IMO to run any gear, but I cant stop you. I think you can make some great gains without the winny. I'd like to know what your goals are, but I think you can achieve a lot without gear for now. you have a pretty lean,muscular physique, I would get my diet in check & you will see big improvements.

[Snrf]

I am currently 20 years old and have been consistenly working out since the age of 14. Along with working out I am on a boxing team.

I am roughly 180-185. BF% maybe around 8-9%.

I'm at a point in my workouts where I don't notice any changes. I would like to bring my BF% down 3-4%. As far as dieting, I dont diet, eating healthy is a lifestyle for me although I could eliminate some carbs. I picked up the real stuff, "STAN QV 100" (Winstrol) thats right what it says off the bottle. 20ml.
I'm not an expert at this subject so bear with me.
I have been told different advice on the best way to take this, so I hope to get the best advice from here. Here is the pic I'm starting with and once I start the cycle I will post a new pic every 2 weeks to show you improvemnets.

Thanks alot

its higher than that...i'd say 11%, i could be wrong tho, what does everyone else think?

you look good though

[smithtc]

smithtc your in good shape but....forgeting your age....you really need to do some research into "gear" and how to cycle in general.
im by means an expert but i would ask............
whats your p.c.t.?
how long is this cycle your planning?
and are you really thinking of doing 700mg of winstrol a week for your first cycle???

if your vial says stan qv '100' id guess,and its only a guess,that its 100mg per 1ml.(it should tell you on the label.)
so if your really thinking of running upto 700mg per week,your little bottle will last about 2 and a 1/2 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!not a cycle at all.

one of the silliest things you can do is buy some random gear before you do your research,cus the temptation to take it anyway will always be there.a** that could cause some terrible sides.

not a flame or meant to critisise but to try and educate.you will get flamed off other members though.

theres lots and lots of quality info on this site you should read first.

research,research,research!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was planning on taking about 300 mg per week. i would like to stay around the same weight maybe lose 5 pounds.
Like I said before I am not very educated on cycles beause this would be my first. I cant really wait, I have boxing championships in the end of April so if I get one cycle in before then I should be ready. I appreaciate the advice, and I will be continuing research. But i plan on starting the cycle in a week or so.
Thanks

[Jiesel]

make sure you get your PCT in check before you start man, you have a great natural build....why would you wanna screw that up?

[5ifthCitizen]

i agree. i know its hard to hear but the main thing i would be concerned about is that u wouldnt want to risk your boxing championship just for this cycle. if you do this cycle, you're gonna have massive strength loss before your competition. you would be much better off holding it til after that. also u should do some more research, figure out a plan and then propose it for comments here. Tip: (im sure you know this) test e or test c alone is probably the best choice for a first cycle.

[*Narkissos*]

smithtc your in good shape but....forgeting your age....you really need to do some research into "gear" and how to cycle in general.
im by means an expert but i would ask............
whats your p.c.t.?
how long is this cycle your planning?
and are you really thinking of doing 700mg of winstrol a week for your first cycle???

if your vial says stan qv '100' id guess,and its only a guess,that its 100mg per 1ml.(it should tell you on the label.)
so if your really thinking of running upto 700mg per week,your little bottle will last about 2 and a 1/2 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!not a cycle at all.

one of the silliest things you can do is buy some random gear before you do your research,cus the temptation to take it anyway will always be there.a** that could cause some terrible sides.

not a flame or meant to critisise but to try and educate.you will get flamed off other members though.

theres lots and lots of quality info on this site you should read first.

research,research,research!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed...

its higher than that...i'd say 11%, i could be wrong tho, what does everyone else think?

you look good though

Agreed x 2... He's sitting between 10-12 %

I'd advise he get his bf% tested...and stay away from the gear

[smithtc]

I feel like im at a stopping point where I can't notice any improvements and so I hope this gear would help me get that edge that I need. You have said my bf% is around 10-12 % then all that means is that i have rom for improvement. All of your advice is great, but I plan on taking this cycle so the advice I need is how to take this gear the safest and most effective way.


If I am told not to take the gear who are the people that are taking the gear. I feel like I am in better shape then some of the individuals who already take the gear so shouldn't that be enough reason to be able to take it. When is it the right time to take the gear? Again I appreaciate all your help, this is a great site.

[smithtc]

make sure you get your PCT in check before you start man, you have a great natural build....why would you wanna screw that up?

How do I go about doing that?

[pavlenko]

u look good, eat more and train hard..basically u need to bulk as much as u can eat like crazy maing

[Jiesel]

Just do some research, It really doesnt take all that long to do some effective research on the right way to use gear....thats what this site is for

As others have mentioned It's not the right time, because A. your age, B. most say you havent hit your natural ability, C. obviously you havent done enough research to use.

In my opinion, C is the most Important, with a close B and A not far behind, you should never be puting something in your body you dont know enough about, plus not knowing the side effects and how to treat them is asking for trouble.

PCT is post cycle therapy...I dont know a whole lot but look in to clomid and nolvadex to start...others can chim in from there...but this PCT is a must...If not ur doomed for gyno and other horrible sides

Good luck regardless but you should listen to the people on the board to an extent....their trying to help!

[smithtc]

Appreaciate your help. Let me know if you may know of any more advice.

[Foskamink]

looking good, wouldnt bother about trying to loose bf, pack on as much muscle as you can to keep in ur weight class and youll be even meaner then you are!

[mousetraps]

check out the steroid profiles on this site... they'll help you

[Maldorf]

Appreaciate your help. Let me know if you may know of any more advice.

If you arent careful and run the cycle right and do a good PCT, you will end up at the same point as where you started or even worse as far as muscle goes. If you screw it up your health will suffer afterwards too, as your natural test production will be very very low. You could risk gyno on your chest too if not careful, and can end up packing on more fat after youre done cycling. Your one bottle of winstrol wont be enough to run a cycle of at least 8 weeks. If you get more, I would run it at 50mg/day. This means injecting every single day. If I were you I would just run test enanthate at 500 mg/wk for about 8-10 weeks, and then do a proper pct. Youll want to take a small dose of something like arimidex to fight estrogen buildup too.
Im also thinking about your boxing, do you want to go up a weight class? That might be rough.