the people that bulk

[seriouslifter]

when do you say its too much and you want to cut now? I have 16 1/2" arms and I want to cut and go on prop, mast and var. But this cycle wont even make my muscles bigger if I intent on cutting. I want a bigger body, i feel that im small at 5'11 and 209 around. I know i have some body fat on me so im not a true 209 I guess. What should be my 5th cycle then? I want bigger arms and so on, but I also want to lose bodyfat.

[MFT81]

why did it take you 4 cycles to get to 209?

[Bigmax]

Bro,AAS help...you sound more like you need to look into your nutrition intake....Whether you cut or bulk the diet has to be on the money or you're spinning your wheels..

[seriouslifter]

why did it take you 4 cycles to get to 209?

no idea, prob could of did it natural. i have gone up to 228 but i was bloated.

[t-gunz]

^^ i think what he was asking was... what did you AS cycles consist of e.g test, deca, winny etc?

[graeme87]

Don’t try and get everything out of one cycle. Also I recon your diet isn’t too good if you have done 5 cycles and are sitting at 209

[GFLEXXX]

look at it in a different light. If you get your diet spot on, and prepare you next cycle compounds right. You may start at 209lbs and finish at 209lbs but have dropped for (i,e,) 15% body fat to 9% body fat....you'll effectively be bigger and look bigger at the same time....I think the mix you mention will do more for you than you think..