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I have been researching some and have seen some people say they have had issues in the past with underdosed gear. I have a question pertaining to this matter. Are there any other properties/symptoms/or ways of telling if you will, BESIDES getting it tested in order to know if you have underdosed gear. I mean getting it tested is by far the best, most efficient and most accurate. But are there any things to look out for that may make you suspicious?
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other than reduced effectiveness...
other than that ask 2 or 3 of your boys (guniea pigs) at the gym that have taken the same gear, and find out how it worked, I always do that with different types of gear from the ugly labs, never a gaurentee but...
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You read to many threads...just take it. And yes..they have had a lot of problems with underdosed gear but they also have gear that is decent.Originally Posted by Big Drez
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lmao that's quite a statement isn't that why we are here to read/ask questions and learn, it's people like YOU that make other people not want to post here. Dickhead, I mean there are some extremely knowledgable and great people here but unfortunately there are always a couple ignorant assholes that are quick to jump somebody's shit when they may ask a "stupid" question...bounce out of my thread asswipe....
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get blood work done during cycle if you're worried about your test being underdosed
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Authentic human grade will always be accurately dosed as they are under strict scrutiny. I mean authentic as in real stuff from the lab not a fake of some sort. Some fakes have hormones in them but not to the dose needed or wanted.
If you have gear in question, take picture of it and post to see if anyone has any feedback on the lab.
Other then that, if you find a legit UG, they are usually overdosed.
To test the gear isn't that expensive if it's a single ester and if you are about to start a cycle, it might be wise to order a bit extra just to send off to know what type dosage you are dealing with. They also don't require much of it, a couple tabs (maybe 5 if you have with dbol) or a couple CC's of oil. You get lab results back in 7 - 10 business days.
Dizz
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blood work can costs a bit of money if you don't have insurance...
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go make friends with a lab tech.
~VET~ Extraordinaire~
There is no real way of knowing unless its tested.
I think a lot of people claim underdose because they didn't gain as much as they hoped. Of course its not their diet or training it has to be the gear is fake.
The 1 problem with this board is that there is so many people. I'm sorry but a majority don't know anything. But they re post and repeat all shit they hear. So its sounds like a lot of people claiming problems.
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Yea that makes sense...
The only reason I had a question is because I have some of the "fire breather" test cyp and even though I'm sure it isn't counterfit due to the examination by people on this board and others I've just heard stories, but their gear could have very well been fake, I was just asking....
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Haha, yes, that would be a good idea I suppose. You could monitor everything; Cholesterol, LFT's, kidneys...you name it while on.
This is so very true, people expect to gain 30lbs solid from 500mg Test/wk in 12 weeks and that's just not the case. They train maybe 2x a week and eat like crap but blame it on the gear. Good point
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Remember, it takes time to start seeing gains from a long ester. Even if you frontload. Eat right, Train right and Rest right and you will make gains if the gear is real.
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Actually I have read a few posts where people have tested non-US human grade gear and there has been a wide range of concentrations going from underodsed to over dosed. if I recall I thought the gear was either from Turkey or Iran but my memory fails me in this particular instance.
I think you are misreading what the other poster ment. Overdosed and underdosed gear is a frequent occurnace. Usually the dose is close enough that it is not something one should worry about, rather they should keep their head down and nose to the grind stone. In other words yes it happens but in most cases it is of greater benefit to put the additional energy into training and diet rather then the gear concentration.
wishing you grow well,
Jagdpanther
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I'm not even going to waste my time explainig what I meant.
If you had a brain you would be dangerous.
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hostility in here
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That's what happens when you got a bunch of guy on half to full grams of test a week...lol.
My wife says I'm waaaay too sensative while I'm on. HA!!
Dizz
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What's up with you and all these one-liners...did you suddenly decide to race to 100 posts or something?
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A.K.A. Parrotitis
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You need to tone down the flame a little bit there champ...
Posts like this are going to earn you a one-way ticket off this board.
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Good point. Some countries don't have the same strict standards as the US or Europe.
I stand corrected
Dizz
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Whats up with you, are you mad about something. I didnt know I had to write a page everytime. No probs bro, ok.
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You're like a shadow...your hopping in every thread I post in and all you're posting is these 3-4 word "one-liners" that are really useless to the board...if you're going to post advice, give a reason for doing so...
No, I'm not mad about something...I just get the impression that you're speed-posting, which under most circumstances, it's a newbie trying to race to 100 posts to obtain a source check.
Again, if you're going to add advice to some of these guys threads, why don't you give a little more than a 3-4 word "one-liner" and back it up with some reasoning.
Just looking out for the board.
Thanks,
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hey bro no worries ok. But you show me where I cant post where I want and how much I want. I'm not breaking any rules. I'm giving my opinions. But I get what your saying, so no bad blood between us bro. I'll try and watch for what your saying.
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I'll hand this one to ya, lol...it's the longest post you made yet.
I almost fell asleep before I finished reading it.
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