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    MSNBC Drops Imus Simulcast Amid Furor

    Does this mean that Rosie is next? She has certainly made more outrageous claims than Imus did here.........
    MSNBC Drops Imus Simulcast Amid Furor
    04/11/07
    NEW YORK (AP) - MSNBC said Wednesday it will drop its simulcast of the "Imus in the Morning" radio program, responding to growing outrage about the radio host's racial slur against the Rutgers women's basketball team.
    "This decision comes as a result of an ongoing review process, which initially included the announcement of a suspension. It also takes into account many conversations with our own employees," NBC news said in a statement.

    The announcement also was made on air.

    Talk-show host Don Imus triggered the uproar on his April 4 show, when he referred to the mostly black Rutgers women's basketball team as "nappy-headed hos." His comments have been widely denounced by civil rights and women's groups.

    The decision does not affect Imus' nationally syndicated radio show, and the ultimate decision on the fate of that program will rest with executives at CBS Corp. In a statement, CBS reiterated that Imus will be suspended without pay for two weeks beginning on Monday, and that CBS Radio "will continue to speak with all concerned parties and monitor the situation closely."

    MSNBC's action came after a growing list of sponsors—including American Express Co., Staples Inc., Procter & Gamble Co., and General Motors Corp.—said they were pulling ads from Imus' show for the indefinite future.

    But it did not end calls for Imus to be fired from the radio portion of his program. The show originates from WFAN-AM in New York City and is syndicated nationally by Westwood One, both of which are managed by CBS Corp.

    Bruce Gordon, former head of the NAACP and a director of CBS Corp., said before MSNBC's decision Wednesday he hoped the broadcasting company would "make the smart decision" by firing Imus.

    "He's crossed the line, he's violated our community," Gordon said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "He needs to face the consequence of that violation."

    Gordon, a longtime telecommunications executive, stepped down in March after 19 months as head of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, one of the foremost U.S. civil rights organizations.

    He said he had spoken with CBS chief executive Leslie Moonves and hoped the company, after reviewing the situation, would fire Imus rather than let him return to the air at the end of an unpaid two-week suspension beginning next Monday.

    A CBS spokesman, Dana McClintock, declined comment on the remarks by Gordon, who is one of at least two minorities on the 13-member board.

    The 10 members of the Rutgers team spoke publicly for the first time Tuesday about the on-air comments, made the day after the team lost the NCAA championship game to Tennessee. Some of them wiped away tears as their coach, C. Vivian Stringer, criticized Imus for "racist and sexist remarks that are ***lorable, despicable, abominable and unconscionable."

    The women, eight of whom are black, agreed to meet with Imus privately next Tuesday and hear his explanation. They held back from saying whether they'd accept Imus' apologies or passing judgment on whether a two-week suspension imposed by CBS Radio and MSNBC was sufficient.

    Stringer said late Wednesday that she did not call for Imus' firing, but was pleased with the decision by NBC executives.

    Imus has apologized repeatedly for his comments. He said Tuesday he hadn't been thinking when making a joke that went "way too far." He also said that those who called for his firing without knowing him, his philanthropic work or what his show was about would be making an "ill-informed" choice.

    At the Rutgers campus in New Brunswick, N.J., about 300 students and faculty rallied earlier in the day to cheer for their team, which lost in the national championship game, and add their voices to the crescendo of calls for Imus' ouster. One of the speakers was Chidimma Acholonu, president of the campus chapter of the NAACP.

    "This is not a battle against one man. This is a battle against a way of thought," she said. "Don Imus does not understand the power of his words, so it is our responsibility to remind him."

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    Eh, I never really cared much for the ol' baffon anyways....

    Good riddance.

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    I hope they do fire him.
    He'll sign with Sirius/XM.
    One less reason to listen to NBC and CBS Radio.
    Not that i ever really listen to him, he is old n stale LOL

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    I don't think Imus should be fired. Rosie HAS said much worse and she should be fired as well, if IMus is fired. Plus when Stern was on regular radio, he and his guests made many more adverse comments than Imus. Imus was simply a sacrificial lamb. They couldn't fire Stern because he generated wayyyyy to much revenue. Although Imus was a draw, he was never the draw Stern was. I for one, being black, think that people like him and others should continue to keep their jobs and continue to make those comments. Why? It actually causes us all to continue the discussion about race. Many people don't think it's a problem and instances like this brings it out in the forefront for people to confront and display how truelly huge this problem still is.

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    I suppose one could debate "freedom of speech" on Imus' behalf...but that's a whole other topic.

    I agree, many other personalities out there, such as Rosie, should get the slam as well...too much bias in the media today...I avoid it.

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    thought police... firing Imus is very bad. Think of where it leads us, I hate Imus but come on, he didnt even say anything that bad compared to the rest of his career or even howard stern's career. I dont get it.

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    The Imus lynch party

    The Imus lynch party

    April 13, 2007
    Pat Buchanan
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    In the end, it was not about Imus. It was about us.

    Are we really a better country because, after he was publicly whipped for 10 days as the worst kind of racist, with whom no decent person could associate, he was thrown off the air?

    Cards on the table.

    This writer works for MSNBC, has been on the Imus show scores of times, watches Imus every morning, and likes the show, the music and the guys: the I-Man, Bernie, Charles and Tom Bowman.

    And Imus is among the best interviewers in our business. Not only does he read and follow the news closely, he listens and probes as well as any interviewer in America. Because he is a comic, people mistake how good a questioner he is.

    Is "Imus in the Morning" outrageous? Over the top at times? Are things said every week, if not every day, where you say, "He's going too far"? Yeah. But outrageousness is part of the show, whether the skits are of "Teddy Kennedy," "Reverend Falwell," "Mayor Nagin" or "The Cardinal."

    And when Imus called the Rutgers women's basketball team "tattooed ... nappy-headed hos," he went over the top. The women deserved an apology. There was no cause, no call to use those terms. As Ann Coulter said, they were not fair game.

    But Imus did apologize, again and again and again.

    And lest we forget, these are athletes in their prime, the same age as young women in Iraq. They are not 5-year-old girls, and they are capable of brushing off an ignorant comment by a talk-show host who does not know them, or anything about them.

    Who, after all, believed the slur was true? No one.

    Compare, if you will, what was done to them – a single nasty insult – to the savage slanders for weeks on end of the Duke lacrosse team and the three players accused by a lying stripper of having gang-raped her at a frat party.

    Duke faculty and talking heads took that occasion to vent their venom toward all white "jocks" on college campuses. Where are the demands for apologies from the talk-show hosts, guests, Duke faculty members and smear artists, all of whom bought into the lies about those Duke kids – because the lies comported with their hateful view of America?

    And hate is what this is all about.

    While the remarks of Imus and Bernie about the Rutgers women were indefensible, they were more unthinking and stupid than vicious and malicious. But malice is the right word to describe the howls for their show to be canceled and them to be driven from the airwaves – by phonies who endlessly prattle about the First Amendment.

    The hypocrisy here was too thick to cut with a chainsaw.

    What was the term the I-Man used? It was "hos," slang for whores, a term employed ad infinitum et ad nauseam by rap and hip-hop "artists." It is a term out of the African-American community. Yet, if any of a hundred rap singers has lost his contract or been driven from the airwaves for using it, maybe someone can tell me about it.

    If the word "hos" is a filthy insult to decent black women, and it is, why are hip-hop artists and rap singers who use it incessantly not pariahs in the black community? Why would black politicians hobnob with them? Why are there no boycotts of the advertisers of the radio stations that play their degrading music?

    Answer: The issue here is not the word Imus used. The issue is who Imus is – a white man, who used a term about black women only black folks are permitted to use with impunity and immunity.

    Whatever Imus' sins, no one deserves to have Al Sharpton – hero of the Tawana Brawley hoax, resolute defender of the fake rape charge against half a dozen innocent guys, which ruined lives – sit in moral judgment upon them.

    "It is our feeling that this is only the beginning. We must have a broad discussion on what is permitted and not permitted in terms of the airwaves," says Sharpton. It says something about America that someone with Al's track record can claim the role of national censor.

    Who is next? And why do we take it?

    I did a bad thing, but I am not a bad person, says Imus. Indeed, whoever used his microphone to do more good for more people – be they the cancer kids of Imus Ranch, the families of Iraq war dead now more justly compensated because of the I-Man or the cause of a cure for autism?

    "We know of no spectacle so ridiculous as the British public in one of its periodic fits of morality," said Lord Macaulay. Unfortunately, Macaulay never saw the likes of the Revs. Sharpton and Jackson.

    Imus threw himself on the mercy of the court of elite opinion – and that court, pandering to the mob, lynched him. Yet, for all his sins, he was a better man than the lot of them rejoicing at the foot of the cottonwood tree

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    The Imus lynch party

    April 13, 2007
    Pat Buchanan
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    In the end, it was not about Imus. It was about us.

    Are we really a better country because, after he was publicly whipped for 10 days as the worst kind of racist, with whom no decent person could associate, he was thrown off the air?

    Cards on the table.

    This writer works for MSNBC, has been on the Imus show scores of times, watches Imus every morning, and likes the show, the music and the guys: the I-Man, Bernie, Charles and Tom Bowman.

    And Imus is among the best interviewers in our business. Not only does he read and follow the news closely, he listens and probes as well as any interviewer in America. Because he is a comic, people mistake how good a questioner he is.

    Is "Imus in the Morning" outrageous? Over the top at times? Are things said every week, if not every day, where you say, "He's going too far"? Yeah. But outrageousness is part of the show, whether the skits are of "Teddy Kennedy," "Reverend Falwell," "Mayor Nagin" or "The Cardinal."

    And when Imus called the Rutgers women's basketball team "tattooed ... nappy-headed hos," he went over the top. The women deserved an apology. There was no cause, no call to use those terms. As Ann Coulter said, they were not fair game.

    But Imus did apologize, again and again and again.

    And lest we forget, these are athletes in their prime, the same age as young women in Iraq. They are not 5-year-old girls, and they are capable of brushing off an ignorant comment by a talk-show host who does not know them, or anything about them.

    Who, after all, believed the slur was true? No one.

    Compare, if you will, what was done to them – a single nasty insult – to the savage slanders for weeks on end of the Duke lacrosse team and the three players accused by a lying stripper of having gang-raped her at a frat party.

    Duke faculty and talking heads took that occasion to vent their venom toward all white "jocks" on college campuses. Where are the demands for apologies from the talk-show hosts, guests, Duke faculty members and smear artists, all of whom bought into the lies about those Duke kids – because the lies comported with their hateful view of America?

    And hate is what this is all about.

    While the remarks of Imus and Bernie about the Rutgers women were indefensible, they were more unthinking and stupid than vicious and malicious. But malice is the right word to describe the howls for their show to be canceled and them to be driven from the airwaves – by phonies who endlessly prattle about the First Amendment.

    The hypocrisy here was too thick to cut with a chainsaw.

    What was the term the I-Man used? It was "hos," slang for whores, a term employed ad infinitum et ad nauseam by rap and hip-hop "artists." It is a term out of the African-American community. Yet, if any of a hundred rap singers has lost his contract or been driven from the airwaves for using it, maybe someone can tell me about it.

    If the word "hos" is a filthy insult to decent black women, and it is, why are hip-hop artists and rap singers who use it incessantly not pariahs in the black community? Why would black politicians hobnob with them? Why are there no boycotts of the advertisers of the radio stations that play their degrading music?

    Answer: The issue here is not the word Imus used. The issue is who Imus is – a white man, who used a term about black women only black folks are permitted to use with impunity and immunity.

    Whatever Imus' sins, no one deserves to have Al Sharpton – hero of the Tawana Brawley hoax, resolute defender of the fake rape charge against half a dozen innocent guys, which ruined lives – sit in moral judgment upon them.

    "It is our feeling that this is only the beginning. We must have a broad discussion on what is permitted and not permitted in terms of the airwaves," says Sharpton. It says something about America that someone with Al's track record can claim the role of national censor.

    Who is next? And why do we take it?

    I did a bad thing, but I am not a bad person, says Imus. Indeed, whoever used his microphone to do more good for more people – be they the cancer kids of Imus Ranch, the families of Iraq war dead now more justly compensated because of the I-Man or the cause of a cure for autism?

    "We know of no spectacle so ridiculous as the British public in one of its periodic fits of morality," said Lord Macaulay. Unfortunately, Macaulay never saw the likes of the Revs. Sharpton and Jackson.

    Imus threw himself on the mercy of the court of elite opinion – and that court, pandering to the mob, lynched him. Yet, for all his sins, he was a better man than the lot of them rejoicing at the foot of the cottonwood tree

    Great article and so true! The double standard in America today is rediculous. I listen to k104 and 97.9 in dallas/fw, which are hip hop/rap stations, and swear I heard the word ho at least 50 times in 2 hours. I just don't get it. I know the context in which Imus used the slang was a stupid mistake but does he seriously need to be rediculed and then fired.

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    Good read, to bad he didn't publish it anonymously. With his name attached to it, no one will even seriously consider the ideas therein.

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    I admit there is a double standard, but most (if not all) radio stations that play rap/hip-hop music those words are bleeped out. Editted versions don't play those words. Imus had no 'clean' version. That is the difference. But I still don't think he should have been fired.

    Secondly, this isn't about Rap music, it's about Don Imus. Are you guys saying that because rappers use this language all the time that it's ok for Don Imus to use it as well. And let's not try to make this rap issue a black/white thing either, because rap music is bought more by white suburban kids than blacks. Let's be real and stop trying to deflect from what Don Imus said. And the most popular rapper is a white rapper who talks about women, used the n-word early in his career, and even talked about raping and mutilating his wife, but he is embraced by both blacks and whites.

    I support free speech whether politically correct or not. People have a right to be assholes!!! This whole Imus thing is going to have a backlash of monumental proportions. Everyone will be a target now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31
    I admit there is a double standard, but most (if not all) radio stations that play rap/hip-hop music those words are bleeped out. Editted versions don't play those words. Imus had no 'clean' version. That is the difference. But I still don't think he should have been fired.

    Secondly, this isn't about Rap music, it's about Don Imus. Are you guys saying that because rappers use this language all the time that it's ok for Don Imus to use it as well. And let's not try to make this rap issue a black/white thing either, because rap music is bought more by white suburban kids than blacks. Let's be real and stop trying to deflect from what Don Imus said. And the most popular rapper is a white rapper who talks about women, used the n-word early in his career, and even talked about raping and mutilating his wife, but he is embraced by both blacks and whites.

    I support free speech whether politically correct or not. People have a right to be assholes!!! This whole Imus thing is going to have a backlash of monumental proportions. Everyone will be a target now.
    That is not what anyone is saying. What I am saying, is that for the last decade rappers (black and white) have degraded women by calling them hos, and now one man gets singled out because Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have not been in the news for a while. I don't agree with what Imus said but I beleive it is bullshit for all the furor this has caused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31
    I admit there is a double standard, but most (if not all) radio stations that play rap/hip-hop music those words are bleeped out. Editted versions don't play those words. Imus had no 'clean' version. That is the difference. But I still don't think he should have been fired.

    Secondly, this isn't about Rap music, it's about Don Imus. Are you guys saying that because rappers use this language all the time that it's ok for Don Imus to use it as well.
    I am saying that if Imus gets in trouble for saying it, they should as well. It is not OK for either of them to say it. Equality is a door that swings both ways.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    I am saying that if Imus gets in trouble for saying it, they should as well. It is not OK for either of them to say it. Equality is a door that swings both ways.....
    I agree.
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    Obama compares rappers to Imus

    Obama compares rappers to Imus
    04/13/07
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    FLORENCE, S.C. - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) on Friday questioned the way some rappers talk about women in songs, saying the lyrics are similar to the derogatory language used by embattled radio host Don Imus.

    They are "degrading their sisters. That doesn't inspire me," Obama said of some hip-hop artists when a man in a crowd of about 1,000 questioned him. The Illinois senator was responding to a question of what inspired him, and said God and civil rights activists.

    Earlier this week, Obama criticized Imus, who was fired Thursday for labeling the Rutgers women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos."

    "I do think we've seen a coarsening of the culture," Obama said in an interview with The Associated Press after the town hall meeting. As a constitutional lawyer, Obama said he was a free speech advocate.

    "But just because you can say something doesn't mean you should say something," he said. "And I think that we have not talked enough about the harmful images and messages that are sent."

    He said as a parent it was a constant struggle to reinforce his two daughters' sense of self-esteem.

    "I think that all of us have become a little complicit in this kind of relaxed attitude toward some pretty offensive things," Obama said. "And I hope this prompts some self-reflection on the part of all of us."

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    I mean he did apologize. People arent perfect they fck up I would like to know 1 person who never made some kind of racists remark. I dont listen to Imus but I feel bad though since he did apologize and lost his job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexed
    I mean he did apologize. People arent perfect they fck up I would like to know 1 person who never made some kind of racists remark. I dont listen to Imus but I feel bad though since he did apologize and lost his job.
    A few of his quotes.

    Chest-thumping pimps." (His description of the New York Knicks.)

    "William Cohen, the Mandingo deal." (Refering to former Defense Secretary Cohen's wife who is African-American.)

    "Wasn't in a woodpile, was he?" (Responding to news that former black militant H. Rap Brown, later known as Abdullah Al-Amin, was found hiding in a shed after exchanging gunfire with police. Imus is alluding to the expression "ni@@er in the woodpile.")

    "We all have 12-inch penises." (When asked what he has in common with Nat Turner, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, New York Knicks basketball player Latrell Sprewell, and Al Sharpton.)

    Referred to African American journalist Gwen Ifill as "A cleaning lady."

    Imus told a 60 Minutes employee that Imus' program producer, Bernard McGuirk had been tapped to do on the radio show so he could tell ni@@er jokes.


    How many times are you going to let the guy apologize before he's held accountable for what he says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    A few of his quotes.

    Chest-thumping pimps." (His description of the New York Knicks.)

    "William Cohen, the Mandingo deal." (Refering to former Defense Secretary Cohen's wife who is African-American.)

    "Wasn't in a woodpile, was he?" (Responding to news that former black militant H. Rap Brown, later known as Abdullah Al-Amin, was found hiding in a shed after exchanging gunfire with police. Imus is alluding to the expression "ni@@er in the woodpile.")

    "We all have 12-inch penises." (When asked what he has in common with Nat Turner, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, New York Knicks basketball player Latrell Sprewell, and Al Sharpton.)

    Referred to African American journalist Gwen Ifill as "A cleaning lady."

    Imus told a 60 Minutes employee that Imus' program producer, Bernard McGuirk had been tapped to do on the radio show so he could tell ni@@er jokes.


    How many times are you going to let the guy apologize before he's held accountable for what he says.
    There does need to be some accountability for what people say, free speech or not. I do hope that some good comes out of this by Sharpton following through with where he says he is taking this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    A few of his quotes.

    Chest-thumping pimps." (His description of the New York Knicks.)

    "William Cohen, the Mandingo deal." (Refering to former Defense Secretary Cohen's wife who is African-American.)

    "Wasn't in a woodpile, was he?" (Responding to news that former black militant H. Rap Brown, later known as Abdullah Al-Amin, was found hiding in a shed after exchanging gunfire with police. Imus is alluding to the expression "ni@@er in the woodpile.")

    "We all have 12-inch penises." (When asked what he has in common with Nat Turner, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, New York Knicks basketball player Latrell Sprewell, and Al Sharpton.)

    Referred to African American journalist Gwen Ifill as "A cleaning lady."

    Imus told a 60 Minutes employee that Imus' program producer, Bernard McGuirk had been tapped to do on the radio show so he could tell ni@@er jokes.

    How many times are you going to let the guy apologize before he's held accountable for what he says.
    Wow, I wasn't aware of all that...

    Clearly the man has had hidden agendas...this time, folks must of figured he's crossed the line....no need for a person of his caliber to be allowed in the nations' spotlight.

    JMHO,

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    Wow, I wasn't aware of all that...

    Clearly the man has had hidden agendas...this time, folks must of figured he's crossed the line....no need for a person of his caliber to be allowed in the nations' spotlight.

    JMHO,

    Agreed. Good post Carlos, I also was not aware of all the beligerant things this guy has said over the years.

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