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    Minorities Fare Worse in Traffic Stops...

    By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN, Associated Press Writer
    Sun Apr 29, 5:33 PM ET



    WASHINGTON - Black, Hispanic and white drivers are equally likely to be pulled over by police, but blacks and Hispanics are much more likely to be searched and arrested, a federal study found.

    Police were much more likely to threaten or use force against blacks and Hispanics than against whites in any encounter, whether at a traffic stop or elsewhere, according to the Justice ***artment.

    The study, released Sunday by the ***artment's Bureau of Justice Statistics, covered police contacts with the public during 2005 and was based on interviews by the Census Bureau with nearly 64,000 people age 16 or over.

    "The numbers are very consistent" with those found in a similar study of police-public contacts in 2002, bureau statistician Matthew R. Durose, the report's co-author, said in an interview. "There's some stability in the findings over these three years."

    Traffic stops have become a politically volatile issue. Minority groups have complained that many stops and searches are based on race rather than on legitimate suspicions. Blacks in particular have complained of being pulled over for simply "driving while black."

    "The available data is sketchy but deeply concerning," said Hilary Shelton, director of the NAACP's Washington bureau. The civil rights organization has done its own surveys of traffic stops, and he said the racial disparities grow larger, the deeper the studies delve.

    "It's very important to look at the hit rates for searches — the number that actually result in finding a crime," Shelton said. "There's a great deal of racial disparity there." He called for federal legislation that would collect uniform data by race on stops, arrests, use of force, searches and hit rates.

    "This report shows there are still disturbing disparities in terms of what happens to people of color after the stop," said Dennis Parker, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's racial justice project. He also said better reporting is needed.

    Like the 2002 report, this one contained a warning that the racial disparities uncovered "do not constitute proof that police treat people differently along demographic lines" because the differences could be explained by circumstances not analyzed by the survey. The 2002 report said such circumstances might include driver conduct or whether drugs were in plain view.

    Traffic stops are the most frequent way police interact with the public, accounting for 41 percent of all contacts. An estimated 17.8 million drivers were stopped in 2005.

    Black, Hispanic and white motorists were equally likely to be pulled over by police — between 8 percent and 9 percent of each group. The slight decline in blacks pulled over — from 9.2 percent in 2002 to 8.1 percent in 2005 — was not statistically significant, Durose said, and could be the result of random differences.

    The racial disparities showed up after that point:

    _Blacks (9.5 percent) and Hispanics (8.8 percent) were much more likely to be searched than whites (3.6 percent). There were slight but statistically insignificant declines compared with the 2002 report in the percentages of blacks and Hispanics searched.

    _Blacks (4.5 percent) were more than twice as likely as whites (2.1 percent) to be arrested. Hispanic drivers were arrested 3.1 percent of the time.

    Among all police-public contacts, force was used 1.6 percent of the time. But blacks (4.4 percent) and Hispanics (2.3 percent) were more likely than whites (1.2 percent) to be subjected to force or the threat of force by police officers.

    People interviewed described police hitting, kicking, pushing, grabbing, pointing a gun or spraying pepper spray at them or threatening to do so. More than four of five felt the force used was excessive, but there were no statistically significant racial disparities among the people who felt that way.

    Two years ago, the Bush administration's handling of the 2002 report and its finding of racial disparities generated considerable controversy.

    ***arting from normal practice, the earlier report was simply posted on the statistics bureau's Web site without any press release announcing it.

    The bureau's director at the time, Lawrence A. Greenfeld, appointed by President Bush in 2001, wanted to publicize the racial disparities, but his superiors disagreed, according to a statistics bureau employee. Greenfeld told his staff he was being moved to a new job following the dispute, according to this employee, who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to reporters.

    This time there was a press release.

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    Have you noticed the number of minorities who commit crimes and then fill the prisons? You can't really blame a cop for being suspicious once he sees a minority member. Let the poor SOB do his job and get the criminals off the street. No court is allowed to send to prison an individual for being a minority.

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    "Police were much more likely to threaten or use force against blacks and Hispanics than against whites in any encounter, whether at a traffic stop or elsewhere, according to the Justice ***artment."


    Where did they include that blacks and hispanics were more likely to run, fight back, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermarty
    Have you noticed the number of minorities who commit crimes and then fill the prisons? You can't really blame a cop for being suspicious once he sees a minority member. Let the poor SOB do his job and get the criminals off the street. No court is allowed to send to prison an individual for being a minority.

    Don't know much about the justice system do you?

    Anyway, this is nothing new. Even though it's not a spoken rule, racial profiling is used all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31
    Don't know much about the justice system do you?

    Anyway, this is nothing new. Even though it's not a spoken rule, racial profiling is used all the time.
    But seriously, I do not know why racial profiling is seen as a negative thing? Sure it happens, common sense dictates that it does. Don't blame those who enforce the law for the obvious cultural issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    But seriously, I do not know why racial profiling is seen as a negative thing? Sure it happens, common sense dictates that it does. Don't blame those who enforce the law for the obvious cultural issues.

    Of course, this is where we are going to differ on this, Logan. Racial profiling isn't a bad thing, but it is when the number of minority arrests and convictions are so much higher than that of others and the level of evidence is less to convict those minorities. Law enforcement has a tendency to be more tenacious when it comes to minorities. If racial profiling was used correctly, then we wouldn't have instances like that of the Susan Smith case, unlawful shootings (Dialu in New York), etc.

    No one denying the so-called cultural issues Logan, but you also cannot deny the so-called bias by certain law enforcement. Cuts both ways remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    "Police were much more likely to threaten or use force against blacks and Hispanics than against whites in any encounter, whether at a traffic stop or elsewhere, according to the Justice ***artment."


    Where did they include that blacks and hispanics were more likely to run, fight back, etc.
    Shhh, you can't point that out. It is racist to state facts that don't praise all minorities and bash white people.

    Those statistics leave out so many variables, it is just sensationalism to garner attention and sympathy. Again, the MAN is persecuting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31
    Of course, this is where we are going to differ on this, Logan. Racial profiling isn't a bad thing, but it is when the number of minority arrests and convictions are so much higher than that of others and the level of evidence is less to convict those minorities. Law enforcement has a tendency to be more tenacious when it comes to minorities. If racial profiling was used correctly, then we wouldn't have instances like that of the Susan Smith case, unlawful shootings (Dialu in New York), etc.

    No one denying the so-called cultural issues Logan, but you also cannot deny the so-called bias by certain law enforcement. Cuts both ways remember?
    Racial profiling is alive and well, in every country. I really do not want to get in a pissing match about statistics BgMc31, but the numbers are overwhelming. Let's not pretend that if we were to do away with racial profiling that minority crime rates would drop, the only thing that would happen is that convictions would drop, which does no one any good. Rather due to the past or thanks to movies and gangster rap, prejudices are not going to drop, they will only increase as the stereotypes are solidified in the publics' perception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Act of God
    Shhh, you can't point that out. It is racist to state facts that don't praise all minorities and bash white people.

    Those statistics leave out so many variables, it is just sensationalism to garner attention and sympathy. Again, the MAN is persecuting!

    It's not racist to point that out. The numbers don't lie, though. And while minorities do run from the police and fight back, so do caucasians. Trash is trash, whether they're black, white, or in between. If you don't think police officers don't get more cautious when they realize they've pulled over a black person instead of a white person, you're being naive.

    However, it is true, that if you have your proper paperwork and don't have a warrant for your arrest, no police officer is going to set you up to be thrown in jail. I don't know why this is, but white people are more likely to take care of these issues than minorities. I've been pulled over several times. Sometimes the cop is cool, sometimes the cop is a prick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31
    Of course, this is where we are going to differ on this, Logan. Racial profiling isn't a bad thing, but it is when the number of minority arrests and convictions are so much higher than that of others and the level of evidence is less to convict those minorities. Law enforcement has a tendency to be more tenacious when it comes to minorities. If racial profiling was used correctly, then we wouldn't have instances like that of the Susan Smith case, unlawful shootings (Dialu in New York), etc.

    No one denying the so-called cultural issues Logan, but you also cannot deny the so-called bias by certain law enforcement. Cuts both ways remember?
    Click (cut/paste) the following link, would you call this "racial profiling" or is it the result of common sense?
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/index.html

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    Those guys don't look suspicious at all.

    Note to terrorists: If you don't want to raise alerts before going on a killing rampage, shave the beard, and get that look of complete hatred out of your eyes.


    I swear, you could've told me those were five photos of 9/11 hijackers, and I would've believed it.

    Hey! How did this thread become about Arab terrorists?

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    racial profiling works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logan13
    Click (cut/paste) the following link, would you call this "racial profiling" or is it the result of common sense?
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/index.html
    How many times do I have to tell you that Foxnews isn't real news Logan! LOL!!! J/K brotha. But I do understand your points... all of them. I know eliminating racial profiling won't lessen crime. My point is the following:

    In areas where minorities are the extreme minority (places like Maine, Utah, the Dakotas, and Montana, each has white populations of 90%+), minorities commit very few crimes but are still more likely than whites to be pulled over and harassed by police. Plus in these and other areas the level of evidence needed to convict minorities is less than that of whites with similar charges.

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    I doenst see any problem with it. They said everyone was pulled over same amount. Well if minorities have a piss poor attitude with the cop because they think they were just pulled over because of their race maybe that's how shit elevates. If they are giving the cop an attitude or problems that's what proabably leads to the search or arrest. I kiss a cops ass when i get pulled over. If I'm right or wrong. There is no reason to give him a reason to screw with me. I think minorities have are to outspoken sometimes and should just shut up .It would keep them out of trouble

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    I doenst see any problem with it. They said everyone was pulled over same amount. Well if minorities have a piss poor attitude with the cop because they think they were just pulled over because of their race maybe that's how shit elevates. If they are giving the cop an attitude or problems that's what proabably leads to the search or arrest. I kiss a cops ass when i get pulled over. If I'm right or wrong. There is no reason to give him a reason to screw with me. I think minorities have are to outspoken sometimes and should just shut up .It would keep them out of trouble

    How do you know minorities have a bad attitude when cops pull them over. You are not a minority and you don't know what a minority feels and how he reacts when a cop pulls them over. Ever take into consideration that some cops treat minorities with less respect than whites? You cannot comment on something you know nothing about. Your comment is typical of people perpetuating stereotypes. Unless you are a minority who has been pulled over then you don't know what happens when they are being pulled over. Because of the negative relationship most minorities have with cops, most minorities also kiss cops ass because they know we (yes I'm black) that we are more likely to be searched, use forced against, etc. But at times some cops take it to the extreme.

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    i know camron doesnt speak for all minorities but when you have someone who can influence others say "i would never help out the police even if a serial killer lived next to me" there is some perverse disdain for law enforcement. he isnt the only one with this belief and he isnt the only one that preaches anti-police banter that influence millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31
    How do you know minorities have a bad attitude when cops pull them over. You are not a minority and you don't know what a minority feels and how he reacts when a cop pulls them over. Ever take into consideration that some cops treat minorities with less respect than whites? You cannot comment on something you know nothing about. Your comment is typical of people perpetuating stereotypes. Unless you are a minority who has been pulled over then you don't know what happens when they are being pulled over. Because of the negative relationship most minorities have with cops, most minorities also kiss cops ass because they know we (yes I'm black) that we are more likely to be searched, use forced against, etc. But at times some cops take it to the extreme.
    Again I'm not talking about everyone. But you see a lot more minorities vocal about how much they hate the cops. So yes its safe to assume that if they get pulled over by someone they hate and they believe they did nothing wrong they may have an attitude. I'm' not saying its wrong for them too. But if your a dick to a cop he will be a dick back.

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    90% of rappers say fuk the police or they hate cops. if i was a cop id be cautious 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer12
    90% of rappers say fuk the police or they hate cops. if i was a cop id be cautious 2

    Not every black person is a rapper and don't share the same sentiment as rappers. So of course you all assume that all blacks are rap fans and share the same sentiment. Remember the largest buyer of rap music are white suburban kids. Stop perpetuating bullshit stereotypes! So according to your logic, cops should be cautious of all black people because of rappers? That's assinine!! If that's the case why aren't cops more skeptical of whites when the #1 rapper in the world is white and says fuk the police as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    Again I'm not talking about everyone. But you see a lot more minorities vocal about how much they hate the cops. So yes its safe to assume that if they get pulled over by someone they hate and they believe they did nothing wrong they may have an attitude. I'm' not saying its wrong for them too. But if your a dick to a cop he will be a dick back.

    But you are saying anyone when you claim that you 'see' a lot more minorities being vocal about cops. Have you ever considered that maybe minorities have a point when complaining about cops? So, using your logic (and speaking as a minority) if a cop is a dick to me, do I have a right to be a dick back to the cop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31
    But you are saying anyone when you claim that you 'see' a lot more minorities being vocal about cops. Have you ever considered that maybe minorities have a point when complaining about cops? So, using your logic (and speaking as a minority) if a cop is a dick to me, do I have a right to be a dick back to the cop?
    I never said they didn't. Yes you have the right to be a dick back,. But don't be surprised if he screws with you then. Unfortunately the cops have the power in that situation. And your only hurting yourself by being a dick. Sometime you are better off biting your tongue. That has nothing to do about race. I learned my lesson from giving cops an attitude and got myself in more trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1
    I never said they didn't. Yes you have the right to be a dick back,. But don't be surprised if he screws with you then. Unfortunately the cops have the power in that situation. And your only hurting yourself by being a dick. Sometime you are better off biting your tongue. That has nothing to do about race. I learned my lesson from giving cops an attitude and got myself in more trouble.
    See thats your experience, my experience has taught me that whether or not I'm cool with a cop or not, I get the same dickheaded cop attitude. Of course that doesn't happen everywhere, but it happens to me more often than it happens to you. And no I don't dress like a thug (I wear a suit most times). I drive an SUV (not pimped out either). And live in a very upscale suburban neighborhood in Vegas (medium house price is 650K). But I still get pulled over for being in the neighborhood (even though there has only been one incident of violent crime in my neighborhood in 4yrs and that was perpetuated by a white cop who beat his wife).

    So what I'm saying is our experiences dictate our attitudes. And obviously our experiences differ.

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    Police do not, well in most cases, pull people out of there cars and beat them because of there race. I am of hispanic decent and have had my fair share of troubles, but get tired of minorities screaming foul because of race. It is bullshit for the most part....there is no such thing as B.W.I. and just because you get pulled over...why does that have to be the reason EVERY TIME!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nalbano34
    Police do not, well in most cases, pull people out of there cars and beat them because of there race. I am of hispanic decent and have had my fair share of troubles, but get tired of minorities screaming foul because of race. It is bullshit for the most part....there is no such thing as B.W.I. and just because you get pulled over...why does that have to be the reason EVERY TIME!!!

    That's laughable and I love how you use your multi ethnicity to appeal to the most popular opinions. I thought you were Italian/Cuban(according to another thread) so you probably look white (unless your Cuban ancestory is Afro Cuban). If you don't than I digress. There is a such thing as being pulled over for driving while black... especially if the cop tells you that!!! I and other minorities never said that was the reasoning EVERY TIME, you are jumping to conclusions. So of course you can't speak for someone like me unless you've walked a mile in my shoes. All you can say is, it's never happened to me and maybe it's because I am white! The report at the beginning of the thread indicated that we (blacks, whites, hispanics) are pulled over about the same frequency, its the level of harassment that differs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31
    Not every black person is a rapper and don't share the same sentiment as rappers. So of course you all assume that all blacks are rap fans and share the same sentiment. Remember the largest buyer of rap music are white suburban kids. Stop perpetuating bullshit stereotypes! So according to your logic, cops should be cautious of all black people because of rappers? That's assinine!! If that's the case why aren't cops more skeptical of whites when the #1 rapper in the world is white and says fuk the police as well?

    Good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31
    That's laughable and I love how you use your multi ethnicity to appeal to the most popular opinions. I thought you were Italian/Cuban(according to another thread) so you probably look white (unless your Cuban ancestory is Afro Cuban). If you don't than I digress. There is a such thing as being pulled over for driving while black... especially if the cop tells you that!!! I and other minorities never said that was the reasoning EVERY TIME, you are jumping to conclusions. So of course you can't speak for someone like me unless you've walked a mile in my shoes. All you can say is, it's never happened to me and maybe it's because I am white! The report at the beginning of the thread indicated that we (blacks, whites, hispanics) are pulled over about the same frequency, its the level of harassment that differs.
    It's happened to me. Where my family lives is all White. Several years ago I drove from NY home to visit family. I had a cop pull me over FOR NO REASON and the first thing is said is where are you going? I said home. He said aren't you going the wrong way? I was driving towards a white neighborhood, towards my home. The second question he asked is what do you do to afford a car like this.

    If those aren't idiot racist questions I don't know what is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
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    i know camron doesnt speak for all minorities but when you have someone who can influence others say "i would never help out the police even if a serial killer lived next to me" there is some perverse disdain for law enforcement. he isnt the only one with this belief and he isnt the only one that preaches anti-police banter that influence millions.
    Did you hear that he apologized and retracted the statement? He also said he speaks for no one but himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BgMc31
    I thought you were Italian/Cuban(according to another thread) so you probably look white (unless your Cuban ancestory is Afro Cuban).
    You are correct and very observant to boot. I am infact Italian/Cuban, so do you think that in the south the white-bred hick cops were I live see ME as white? I do find it strange that you feel I would not understand your side of the issue due to the fact that I have not " walked a mile in your shoes ". That is rather silly to say something of that nature because you have never walked that mile in any other shoes than your own.....kinda hypocritical I would say. I am not trying to rile you up though man, just a friendly conversation is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    Did you hear that he apologized and retracted the statement? He also said he speaks for no one but himself.

    yea an apology because he was ordered to by his record company. he said what he said because he meant it. his apology was just as good as Imus's.....a PR move, nothing sincere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    It's happened to me. Where my family lives is all White. Several years ago I drove from NY home to visit family. I had a cop pull me over FOR NO REASON and the first thing is said is where are you going? I said home. He said aren't you going the wrong way? I was driving towards a white neighborhood, towards my home. The second question he asked is what do you do to afford a car like this.

    If those aren't idiot racist questions I don't know what is.

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    they ask those questions no matter what. they are placing you in a timeline. thats what cops are trained to do. if they looked at your license and it says brooklyn but your headed somewhere else of course they are going to say your going the wrong way. the car question is what disturbs me. i would have definitley reported him for that. a simple complaint to the police ***t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
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    i know camron doesnt speak for all minorities but when you have someone who can influence others say "i would never help out the police even if a serial killer lived next to me" there is some perverse disdain for law enforcement. he isnt the only one with this belief and he isnt the only one that preaches anti-police banter that influence millions.
    Of course he does influence millions but he only speaks for himself. And who are those millions? Not just blacks from the ghetto but also the #1 buyers of rap music... WHITE KIDS! So why does police focus their fustration on minorities? You can't blame rap music because that should put the focus on whites not minorities. The answer is simple racism and belief in absurb stereotypes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nalbano34
    You are correct and very observant to boot. I am infact Italian/Cuban, so do you think that in the south the white-bred hick cops were I live see ME as white? I do find it strange that you feel I would not understand your side of the issue due to the fact that I have not " walked a mile in your shoes ". That is rather silly to say something of that nature because you have never walked that mile in any other shoes than your own.....kinda hypocritical I would say. I am not trying to rile you up though man, just a friendly conversation is all.
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    The point I was trying to make is you cannot experience what I've been through because you aren't black. So you haven't walked a mile in my shoes. I cannot experience what you've been through because I'm not white. Obviously your treatment by police has been good for the most part because you defend their actions... that's your experience. My experiences have been different. And that is where I'm speaking from, my experiences. I'm not getting riled up dude, I enjoy a friendly debate as well. I bothers me that as soon as topics like this come up, everyone (who isn't a minority) immediately blames the minority for the issues. I know that we (minorities) aren't without our faults, but common sense would tell people that there does exist a level of racism in law enforcement, there is no denying that and until whites recognize that and minorities begin to cooperate with police, these issues will never change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
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    they ask those questions no matter what. they are placing you in a timeline. thats what cops are trained to do. if they looked at your license and it says brooklyn but your headed somewhere else of course they are going to say your going the wrong way. the car question is what disturbs me. i would have definitley reported him for that. a simple complaint to the police ***t.
    At the time I still had my drivers license with my parents home address. I did not have a NY license. He could read it and see I was going home. He was a dick.

    Back then I had my own business. I noticed odd questions when I d eposited checks at the bank. If I had a white teller they examined the checks like they were fake. Then would ask what do I do to d eposit checks that amount. One asked me if I was a rapper or dancer. It makes me wonder if I was white would the ask the same question? Or would they just assume I have a great job or own my own business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    At the time I still had my drivers license with my parents home address. I did not have a NY license. He could read it and see I was going home. He was a dick.

    Back then I had my own business. I noticed odd questions when I d eposited checks at the bank. If I had a white teller they examined the checks like they were fake. Then would ask what do I do to d eposit checks that amount. One asked me if I was a rapper or dancer. It makes me wonder if I was white would the ask the same question? Or would they just assume I have a great job or own my own business.

    people are assholes. I had to put a less ethnic version of my name on my resume so my name wont close certain doors for me. certainly not the same level of shit you have to take but i can sympathize.

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    I have a question.

    If a cop pulls you over *for no reason* and you have other people in the car with you. Does the cop have a right to request IDs from all of the passengers?
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    i have been pulled over for no reason as well. i have tinted windows so he couldnt see who was driving. i dont know if they specifically have the right to ask for ID.....although i doubt there is a law/rule forbidding them from asking. you are well within your rights to refuse to cooperate in that situation(the passengers not you). you may be sitting there for a while but if i had time to kill i certainly would be that pain in the ass.

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    that may vary state to state i cant remember but it seems they cant in tx unless they have probable cause but they can make up anything they want they can be pricks you have the good and bad in every profession. they say they cant profile but they do. the only thing to do in that case is to play it cool be polite that pisses them off. i myself have been driving through a part of town you dont see many whites have been pulled over and questioned. the funny thing was i was taking a co worker home it happens to us all some more than others but if we have nothing to hide who cares let them play their games.

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    cops like to play games. if you refuse them certain things then all bets are off. your going to get a ticket for those tinted windows, any stickers that may obstruct your view, that tassle you have hanging etc.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by biglouie250
    i have been pulled over for no reason as well. i have tinted windows so he couldnt see who was driving. i dont know if they specifically have the right to ask for ID.....although i doubt there is a law/rule forbidding them from asking. you are well within your rights to refuse to cooperate in that situation(the passengers not you). you may be sitting there for a while but if i had time to kill i certainly would be that pain in the ass.
    This has happened to me twice. It's why I wondered if that is legal. When a cop pulls over a car full of White people does he ask to see all of your passengers IDs? Am I being treated differently by cops because of my color?

    I've had a cop pull a gun on me. I was coming out of the subway from work and I supposedly matched the description of someone who committed a crime. He pulled his gun out and started screaming for me to get against the wall. I was scared shitless.

    To be honest when I am pulled over by White cops I'm TERRIFIED. No, I have not done anything illegal and no I have nothing in the car to hide. I'm terrified because I'm afraid I'll get some asshole cops with a hate on for any one of color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E
    This has happened to me twice. It's why I wondered if that is legal. When a cop pulls over a car full of White people does he ask to see all of your passengers IDs? Am I being treated differently by cops because of my color?

    I've had a cop pull a gun on me. I was coming out of the subway from work and I supposedly matched the description of someone who committed a crime. He pulled his gun out and started screaming for me to get against the wall. I was scared shitless.

    To be honest when I am pulled over by White cops I'm TERRIFIED. No, I have not done anything illegal and no I have nothing in the car to hide. I'm terrified because I'm afraid I'll get some asshole cops with a hate on for any one of color.

    ive never been pulled over and had my passengers show ID's. If this happens again I'd certainly ask why they are doing this. And again, make note of the officers name and file a complaint. One thing I dont get is that there are more minority NYPD cops then whites.......do they all find you lol??

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