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    First Cycle - need opinions

    Hi guys

    I'm considering this cycle.

    Stats:
    Training experience 3 years
    Weight 205 lbs
    BF 10-12%
    Hight 6"1

    Week 1-12 - 250mg a week of Testosterone Enanthate
    Week 14-16 Nolvadex 40/40/20

    250 mg a week should be enough for beginner? Add dbol 25 mg?

    Can i expect to gain 20-25 lbs from this cycle?

    Thanks
    Last edited by Juicer19; 05-09-2007 at 01:24 PM.

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    I would up the dose to 400-500mg and lay off the dbol

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    Quote Originally Posted by shredzs
    I would up the dose to 400-500mg and lay off the dbol

    Good advice for first cycle if you are old enough. How old are you? As far as gains are concerned, it could be possible ***ending on diet, but some of that weight will probably be water weight.

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    20lbs lbm is pretty high.

    i'd bump the dosages test e no less than 500 for 10-12 weeks
    and dbol if ur gonna run it i'd use no less than 40mg ed for 4-6 weeks
    get blood work done first and after

    that cycle is fine for abeginner as long as u monitor ur blood ur'll know how the dosages effected you. i ran dbol for 6 weeks at 50 then winny for another 6 weeks at 80 and my blood came back fine so dont listen to the parrots

    also ur weight gain is totally ***endent on ur diet man if your not eating to grw you wont grow end of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stock
    .......some of that weight will probably be water weight.
    I agree with this.
    your goal of 20-25 pounds is possible, but the end result after you get off and drop the water will be lower than 20-25 in my opinion. For a first time cycle, Maybe consider at least 400. I did mine for the first time at 500/wk. took mine on Monday and Thursday. Had good gains with that. But remember, without the right diet and training, your just pissin your money away.
    AND make sure before you start....get all your gear and supplies FIRST. even all your pins and needles. Have everything before you start. I see it time and time again. People start and they will be like....."I have one shot left in my test and i cant get a hold of my source or my source cant get any right now" "What do I do?" LOL. or " i cant get any darts at my local pharmacy cause they are out" LOL.
    Good luck bro and welcome to the board!!

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    Thanks for all the replies

    First of all sorry for my english it is not my first language.


    Quote Originally Posted by Stock
    Good advice for first cycle if you are old enough. How old are you? As far as gains are concerned, it could be possible ***ending on diet, but some of that weight will probably be water weight.
    I'm 19. I'm done growing i think. Atleast i haven't grown anything in hight for a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by innocent_criminal
    I agree with this.
    your goal of 20-25 pounds is possible, but the end result after you get off and drop the water will be lower than 20-25 in my opinion. For a first time cycle, Maybe consider at least 400. I did mine for the first time at 500/wk. took mine on Monday and Thursday. Had good gains with that. But remember, without the right diet and training, your just pissin your money away.
    AND make sure before you start....get all your gear and supplies FIRST. even all your pins and needles. Have everything before you start. I see it time and time again. People start and they will be like....."I have one shot left in my test and i cant get a hold of my source or my source cant get any right now" "What do I do?" LOL. or " i cant get any darts at my local pharmacy cause they are out" LOL.
    Good luck bro and welcome to the board!!
    I'm eating well over my maintaining, atleast I always end up cutting after 3-5 months or so because i put on to much fat.

    There is only one thing I'm afraid of that is if the steriods will have any effect on the ability of the brain to learn and study later on?
    Last edited by Juicer19; 05-09-2007 at 02:19 PM.

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    bump

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    I'm 19. I'm done growing i think. Atleast i haven't grown anything in hight for a year.
    This means nothing, plenty of people have growth spurts in college...too young IMO for a cycle

    CD

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    i can say nothin b/c i did a eq cycle when i was 19, wnated beins and enduarance, i would personally wait till you were 20 or so, but if youve decided ide run the test at 500mg wk for 12 weeeks...if you want dboll ide run 40 mg ed weeks 1-4, taking all 40 mg 1 hour b4 workout w/ grapefruit juice "helps absorption"...have clomid and nolva b4 you start, and maybe letro or armidex on hand in case gyno decides to show up....good luck bro

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