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    Masteron-good for first cycle?

    I'm looking for a good first cycle with the main intent of cutting. Would Masteron alone be effective, or should I take it with something else? Also what would be a good dosage and cycle length to start with for best results.
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    Most people don't recommend Masteron for a first cycle because it contains multiple compunds.. I believe it's similar if not the same as Sust.. The point being that you won't be able to narrow down what the culprit is if sides occur.. Most recommend Test because if sides do occur, you can figure out what measures to take to help..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat Too Much
    Most people don't recommend Masteron for a first cycle because it contains multiple compunds.. I believe it's similar if not the same as Sust.. The point being that you won't be able to narrow down what the culprit is if sides occur.. Most recommend Test because if sides do occur, you can figure out what measures to take to help..
    Nothing you said was correct. Masterone is a dht derivative that only has one ester attached. Sust is test with multiple esters attached for hormone replacement therapy, not for bodybuilding.

    Threadstarter, you can use mast. alone but I wouldn't advise it.

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    I think Masteron Enanthate with Testosterone Enanthate would be a very good begginer cycle. You can do it like this...

    Test Enan 500mg/week Weeks 1-10
    Mast Enan 400mg/week Weeks 1-10

    and you could do armidex at 0.25mg ED if you want to keep bloat/water retention down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dece870717
    I think Masteron Enanthate with Testosterone Enanthate would be a very good begginer cycle. You can do it like this...

    Test Enan 500mg/week Weeks 1-10
    Mast Enan 400mg/week Weeks 1-10

    and you could do armidex at 0.25mg ED if you want to keep bloat/water retention down.
    You shouldn't need arimidex with masteron. It has Anti-e effects on its own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kynetguy
    You shouldn't need arimidex with masteron. It has Anti-e effects on its own.
    Exactly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by testisbest
    Nothing you said was correct. Masterone is a dht derivative that only has one ester attached. Sust is test with multiple esters attached for hormone replacement therapy, not for bodybuilding.

    Threadstarter, you can use mast. alone but I wouldn't advise it.
    You are correct, I was thinking of Omnadren.. I did not intend to give false advice.

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    Mast alone would be better if you are lean, less than 10% BF. So ***ending on what your goals for the cycle would be, would determine what gear you should be on. Most on her would agree, I do as well, that a test only cycle for the first go would be the best. You can cut on Test, but your diet needs to be clean. But that still might be over your head at this stage. Why dont you give us your stats, and we'll go from there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stock
    Mast alone would be better if you are lean, less than 10% BF. So ***ending on what your goals for the cycle would be, would determine what gear you should be on. Most on her would agree, I do as well, that a test only cycle for the first go would be the best. You can cut on Test, but your diet needs to be clean. But that still might be over your head at this stage. Why dont you give us your stats, and we'll go from there...
    who determined that you need to be 10% or less body fat for mast to be effective? I have heard that a couple times just wondering where the source was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orion565
    who determined that you need to be 10% or less body fat for mast to be effective? I have heard that a couple times just wondering where the source was?
    I would like to know this too considering:

    1) it doesnt convert to estrogen, rather reduces it, so 10-15% BF would not increase estrogenic sides

    2) is actually known for increasing fat burning and hardening your look.

    So, someone with some credibility explain the 10%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stock
    Mast alone would be better if you are lean, less than 10% BF. So ***ending on what your goals for the cycle would be, would determine what gear you should be on. Most on her would agree, I do as well, that a test only cycle for the first go would be the best. You can cut on Test, but your diet needs to be clean. But that still might be over your head at this stage. Why dont you give us your stats, and we'll go from there...
    Whats up with everyone giving incorrect advise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdm95lude
    Whats up with everyone giving incorrect advise?
    NO SHIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stock
    Mast alone would be better if you are lean, less than 10% BF. So ***ending on what your goals for the cycle would be, would determine what gear you should be on. Most on her would agree, I do as well, that a test only cycle for the first go would be the best. You can cut on Test, but your diet needs to be clean. But that still might be over your head at this stage. Why dont you give us your stats, and we'll go from there...
    1) you can cut on damn near anything if you diet is right.

    2) And to expand on that thought, mast alone is going to halt your test production, plus remove your estrogen. . .

    I wouldnt even consider mast without a test. Mast Prop or Mast Enan with corresponding estered test. I like short esters. But I don't mind shooting ED either.

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    Sorry guys, I was in a hurry, and I did not get my point across as I intended. I never said it would not be effective, Mast will work, but since it dries you up and makes your muscles harder, the effects wont be as recognizable unless you have a lower BF%. I guess it would have been better to say it will work better and you will probably receive better results with a lower BF%. IMO, it's great to be used w/ test, but on its own, the results wont be nearly as good.
    Last edited by Stock; 05-16-2007 at 07:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stock
    Sorry guys, I was in a hurry, and I did not get my point across as I intended. I never said it would not be effective, Mast will work, but since it dries you up and makes your muscles harder, the effects wont be as recognizable unless you have a lower BF%. I guess it would have been better to say it will work better and you will probably receive better results with a lower BF%. IMO, it's great to be used w/ test, but on its own, the results wont be nearly as good.
    So are you saying that the effects of mast will go away after you are finished cycling it?? I am not trying to flame, I am just asking for reputable knowledge and not just a repeat of someone’s opinion since mast is not that well documented like other aas.

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    Masteron's hardening effects will go away 2 to 4 weeks after cycle. Alot of guys used to say that mast wasn't worth running unless you were 10% or lower because of how high the prices used to be and how hard it was to find. Now it's cheap and works well with your body fat% in the teens. I don't know anybody that's tried it with a higher body fat so I won't comment on it.

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    Used it and lowed it, used masteron and test prop, and it was great, also it was first cycle.

    would strongly recommend it! but use test with it.

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    Just stick with Test only for first cycle, this would be better than masteron only.

    What are your stats?

    How long have you been training?

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