Reduce BA?

[adude006]

I've finished 3 shots now of Test E (300mg/ml), on the left/right glutes and left quads. All 3 shots ended up with extreme sorness & mild pain (not like real pain but i can feel it strongly). After the glutes i couldn't sit. After the quad one i am unable to walk properly. No fever or infection but there are lumps on my ass/quads. Even went to a doc who said it is not an infection.

This never happened last cycle. The ugl is top rated so i doubt the gear is bad. Even had a friend inject me for 1 shot to rule out my injection error. so it leaves me to believe maybe the BA is high.. Instead of buying some other brand i would first prefer to see if i can reduce the BA%. The lab guy says it's 2% but it could be higher... So what's the procedure to reduce it and how do i estimate how much it will be right now?

[Kratos]

Just put some more oil in there/dilute it

[Adam F]

Grapeseed oil, cottonseed oil etc is the anwsers to your prayers. You can find a vial for under $10 minus shipping. You can buy it and make it sterile on your own as well, but so cheap why bother

[kynetguy]

Just remember when you cut it, yor concentration goes down. if you are shooting 300mg (1 cc) and dilute it with say 1cc of oil, then you will have to do 4cc total. And I would highly recommend splitting that into two locations.

[scaramouche]

ba has nothing to do with pain,i have made gear at both 1 and 5%ba and found no difference in the pain level,its mainly to do with the hormone and or ester

[adude006]

So these cotton/grape seed oils, i inject say 0.5cc into a new viral. Then remove the test from the old viral into the new one using a srynge & it should be good to go? I'm guessing then i'll need to inject 2.5 cc then?

[scaramouche]

as far as im aware there is no way to reduce the amount of ba,to dilute it with sterile oil gso or otherwise simply draw up ur test as normal and then draw an equal amount of sterile oil into the same syringe and inject it,u should find that to be painless,so the total solution will be 150mg/ml enth,its the test causing the pain not the ba

trust me im a juicehead

[adude006]

How does it come to 150mg/ml?

1cc Test e (300mg/ml) + 1cc oil.. right?

Its not the pain at the time of inection i'm worried about, the injection goes in smoothly. The problem starts after that (until now it's been happening from the next day onwards for 5-6 days...)

[scaramouche]

yes 1ml enth @ 300mg/ml mixed with 1ml oil will give u 2ml @150mg/ml, the delayed pain ur experiencing is normal,as the oil and solvents dissapate u r left with the hormone and ester in ur muscle

[big_dubya33]

i'd be hesitant to mix in more oil, etc unless you really know what you're doing. An unsterile solution is BAD NEWS

I rub down the area for about 15 minutes and apply heat if it's sore the next day. ibuprofen or another nsaid will also help with the pain.

i've also found that i do better if i take my shots in the a.m. vs. p.m. Moving around during the day instead of shooting then lying still all night seems to help keep the soreness down

good luck

W

[adude006]

Do we usually apply heat or ice? Most posts here say heat but my doc told me to put some ice... Or it doesn't matter?

[big_dubya33]

Do we usually apply heat or ice? Most posts here say heat but my doc told me to put some ice... Or it doesn't matter?

i was told heat and that worked. haven't tried ice

[The Punnisher]

Just warm the bottle of test before you draw it. Try that before you go trying to dilute or mix anything.

[rabidsquirrel]

i had very painful injections last cycle to. i used heat pad and 800mg of motren. motren was only over the counter med that helped me. i have heard you can put bottle in the oven with a pin in top to lower the ba, but i dont know if this is true. good luck

[adude006]

sounds good, will try these things out

[scaramouche]

i'd be hesitant to mix in more oil, etc unless you really know what you're doing. An unsterile solution is BAD NEWS
I rub down the area for about 15 minutes and apply heat if it's sore the next day. ibuprofen or another nsaid will also help with the pain.

i've also found that i do better if i take my shots in the a.m. vs. p.m. Moving around during the day instead of shooting then lying still all night seems to help keep the soreness down

good luck

W

of course the oil is sterile what do u think i was suggesting, engine oil,20/50 semi synthetic multigrade is best

[The Punnisher]

A little Mobil 1 5w20 is what I usually use

Don't put it in the oven. Just sit it in a pot with a little water. Don't boil it, just heat it up a little. The water just needs to be enough to cover up about half of the test bottle when it's sitting in the pot. Just a nice small flame to heat the water should do it.

[yahya1966]

in the past, i always used ice for post injection swelling from ugl gear, and it always worked for me. if you do use heat, i would alternate the heat with the ice. ice is anti-inflammatory, heat is for increasing circulation to the area.

this problem is why i started homebrewing. hopefully, the powder gods will return soon.